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#100647 - 21/06/2002 08:00 Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector
Neutrino
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I received confirmation from digikey yesterday that all
of the components needed to build a sled connector had been shipped. Apparently they have them all in stock now for those of you that wish to build a connector.
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#100648 - 21/06/2002 09:02 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Neutrino]
silamanajik
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Registered: 19/12/2001
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Loc: IL - USA
What part does digikey make? Is it the actual plastic piece on the sled with all the wiring?

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#100649 - 21/06/2002 09:17 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Neutrino]
JBjorgen
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If it's not too much trouble, could you please post all of the part numbers you ordered?
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#100650 - 21/06/2002 09:45 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: silamanajik]
andy
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No, just the connectors themselves.
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#100651 - 21/06/2002 10:15 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: andy]
silamanajik
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Cool I tried to get some from the original manufacturer and they were not very responsive. So like he said could you please post all the relevant information for ordering these?

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#100652 - 22/06/2002 23:53 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: silamanajik]
Neutrino
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As odd as it may seem. I don't have the part numbers. I ordered these parts by using a link from the board. Those links don't work any more. I did receive the housing yesterday. It is Digi-Key part number H10109-ND and is the correct part. As the other items come in I will list the part numbers sorry.
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#100653 - 23/06/2002 07:34 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Neutrino]
philp69
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Registered: 29/04/2001
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Loc: Long Island, NY
It looks like these are the Digikey P/N's:
H10109-ND Connector shell
H10085-ND Power Pins (2 per connector)
H10087-ND Signal Pins (22 per connector)

And here is Hirose's datasheet...

Cheers,
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#100654 - 23/06/2002 08:31 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: philp69]
silamanajik
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Registered: 19/12/2001
Posts: 36
Loc: IL - USA
That company, Hirose, is the same one I tried to buy from directly, but they would not respond to my emails. It is awesome you found a dealer for these parts. Good work!

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#100655 - 23/06/2002 08:36 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: silamanajik]
philp69
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Registered: 29/04/2001
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Loc: Long Island, NY
I can't take credit for finding Digikey, you have to thank Neutrino for that (thanks!). I just looked up the P/N's and put up some links...

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#100656 - 23/06/2002 22:23 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: philp69]
Neutrino
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I can't take the credit either. The availablitliy of these parts was first posted by Shonky I believe. Thank you for relisting the part numbers!
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#100657 - 24/06/2002 04:23 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Neutrino]
Shonky
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It was me originally and I did originally order some from Digikey but cancelled after I got a much better price here in Oz - MOQ was higher though. Also their 4-6 week lead time was obviously a little bit pessimistic.

That's what started the whole connector/harness buy. I am still away on business at the moment so don't have much time to check in here for a while. I should be back in Oz by the end of the week and will start to organize the actual buy. I am still on the hunt for suitable fuseholder and filter and possibly also the tuner connector, although I think they might be a bit of a lost cuase and I will supply the fues holder only and no tuner connector.
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#100658 - 24/06/2002 09:12 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Shonky]
Derek
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and besides which Paticks new tuner won't come with a connector - just a flying lead (to the best of my knowledge anyway).
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#100659 - 24/06/2002 10:02 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Derek]
tman
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Wasn't it that he was going to just have leads coming out of the box with the connectors on the end instead of having the connectors mounted flush with the tuner casing?

If you don't have the plugs then you can just splice the wires together I guess if you're getting one of Patrick's new tuners...

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#100660 - 25/06/2002 13:17 Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: Neutrino]
elperepat
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Registered: 11/01/2002
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I'm about to order connectors from digikey for a little project and would like to confirm quantity:

If you search for part number H10085-ND, unity price is 1.04$ (Can) each. On the bottom of the page, I read: Standard Package 100.
What do you think? If I order 10 x H10085-ND, will I get 10 or 1000 pins for a total of 10.40$?. 1000 pins seems ridiculous for 10.40$, but at 1.04$ for each pin, a connector will cost 25$ + 5$ for housing... Is that the expected price?

Anyone received pins from digikey and would like to confirm?

Thanks!

Elperepat

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#100661 - 25/06/2002 19:16 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: elperepat]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
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It probably means $1.04 each but you have a minimum order quantity of 100.

BTW: That sound's real cheap. Digikey US list about US$3.5 for a single unit down to US$1.5-2 for 50 or more.
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#100662 - 25/06/2002 19:35 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: Shonky]
philp69
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Registered: 29/04/2001
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Loc: Long Island, NY
Unless it's different for shipments to Canada, you can order in 1 pc increments. I placed an order for 3 housings, 10 power pins and 80 signal pins and the prices (USD) on my order were $3.28, $0.611, $0.3804 each, respectively. I think the reference to 100 pcs is just the standard mfg supplied package quantity.

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#100663 - 25/06/2002 19:44 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: Shonky]
dcosta
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Registered: 04/02/2002
Posts: 277
Loc: Massachussetts
These terms : pins, connectors and housings are all greek to me.
I am, however very interested in
"the thing on the back of the car mounting sled that has all the wires dangling from it."
whach can also be refferred to as
"the thing that the empeg connects to when you slide it into your dashboard."
I would like to buy 2 of them.

Shonkey, I think you've got me covered on this one,
Lemme know what you need for cash to make sure I get 2 of these, when the time comes.

I plan to make a couple home docking stations which, if they come out well,
I'll need more of the above described connectors
because I'll use them for more docking stations that I think I plan to selll here.
I think I mentioned that in another post somewhere.

-toodles
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#100664 - 25/06/2002 20:22 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: dcosta]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
I have you down. Hope to be back home on Friday and will start ordering connectors then. However I may need to stay a few more days (but I wanna go home.... ).
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#100665 - 25/06/2002 21:18 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: Shonky]
msaeger
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did you decide if you were going to do assembled ones or not ?
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#100666 - 25/06/2002 21:25 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: msaeger]
Shonky
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Registered: 12/01/2002
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Loc: Brisbane, Australia
I will be doing them but for now it will be no noise filter, no tuner connector, no ISO connector and no mic socket. I will wire the tuner wires according to the colours on the current sled and supply the spare pins for the mic connector.

Look for an email next week about it with finalized prices too.
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#100667 - 29/06/2002 08:59 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: Shonky]
Neutrino
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Registered: 23/01/2002
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Heres a picture of my first home made connector


Attachments
100740-DSCF0805.JPG (92 downloads)

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#100668 - 29/06/2002 11:14 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: Neutrino]
JBjorgen
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Very nice. Coupla questions for ya - how long did it take to make, and how difficult is it for someone with only beginner level soldering skills? Also, does it require a special crimper?
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#100669 - 29/06/2002 23:09 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: JBjorgen]
Neutrino
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It is very simple to make. There is no soldering required. You can pick up a cheap crimper for under 20 bucks and make your own very easily. One of the crimpers I own that falls in this price range ia an AMP brand and says "Service Tool I" on the handle. There are no part numbers on it though. I think I got it at Rat Shack but am not sure.
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#100670 - 30/06/2002 07:49 Re: Question concerning quantity from digikey... [Re: Neutrino]
msaeger
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I would solder them too if only because the crimped only ones from empeg had wires pull out
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#100671 - 30/06/2002 10:35 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Neutrino]
AlB
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Registered: 06/02/2002
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Thanks for the Post on connectors Just got confirmation of the shipment for my connectors from Diigikey! Lets see One for the living room one for the kitchen, one for the X5,M3,Mini Jeeze, better order more!! Oh yeah the Garage!! THank god there are resourceful people (all Y'all!) who search out these parts! Thank you Thank You Thank you

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#100672 - 30/06/2002 11:41 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: AlB]
rockstar
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Registered: 24/11/2000
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so what are we doing to make our own sleds now beyojnd the connector?

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#100673 - 30/06/2002 12:02 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: rockstar]
JBjorgen
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It's been reported in other threads that sleds from old pull-out car stereos can be retrofitted with some resourcefullness and a dremel tool. Of course, for a docking station, something workable could be fabricated from wood or sheet metal.
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#100674 - 01/07/2002 08:23 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: JBjorgen]
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For those of you who wish to solder the connections. When you look at the pins you will see that there are two diffrent sets of flaps that are suppose to get crimped. The first set, closest to the pin, are for the bare wire. The second set, on the end of the connector are to be crimped over the insulation. The first set is for the electrical connection. The second set are to hold the wire so any flexing takes place away from the crimp. This is to reduce any chance of the wire breaking off. When you solder the connector, solder only were the wire is crimped for electrical connection and then only crimp the second set. If you solder the whole thing there is a greater chance that the wire will snap off at the beginning of the solder joint, due to vibration or wire movement. You will also need to be very quick with the soldering iron so as to not induce too much heat into the wire and cause srinkage of the insulation or wicking of the solder up the wire. Remember that the wire should be supple not stiff after the last crimp.
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#100675 - 01/07/2002 23:44 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: philp69]
nt4show
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Califonia
Thanks a bunch for posting the site and part numbers. I really appreciate it
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#100676 - 02/07/2002 01:29 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: nt4show]
Legoverse
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Registered: 25/04/2002
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Loc: Mesa, AZ
Thanks a bunch for posting the site and part numbers. I really appreciate it

Yep. Thanks.
I just ordered two connectors and a bunch of pins.
Here is what is boils down to:
2 connector housings - $6.56 @3.28 ea.
50 small pins - $19.02 @ .38 ea. (ouch)
10 power pins - $6.11 @ .61 ea.

Total: $31.69 plus shipping. I opted for priority mail. There is an option for 1st class, but I wasn't sure of the weight.

I was forced to buy at least ten of the larger power pins - minimum order quantity. I only wanted 5 or 6 to cover myself for spares. So when I receive the order, I will post here and whoever is the first to request the extras (at least 4) gets them. (Free, via slow mail)
Save somebody having to order the power pins anyway.

Just did a little calculation. Digi-Key imposes a $5 handling charge if orders are less than $25. So whoever gets my free pins would still be compelled to buy two connectors and at least 49 small pins to come up to $25.
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#100677 - 02/07/2002 08:43 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Neutrino]
nt4show
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Califonia
thanks for the added advice with the connector. I ordered three this morning. apperently this is a new part for this company and they do not have many in stock (connectors ie.) they showed 9 left at the time I ordered. So I am patiently awaiting the connectors to arrive.

Anyone have any info on where I can get a empty can that will fit the empeg? I may need to find a old pullout if no ideas come up.

Rob
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#100678 - 02/07/2002 09:10 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: nt4show]
lockuplever
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Registered: 30/01/2002
Posts: 264
Loc: Tucson, AZ
What ever happened to all of the sleds that were sent back to empeg because of the upper lip not being present? I know that I have personnaly sent back 2 after David sent me the correct ones. Are they being repaired, or just sitting on a shelf somewhere? They would probably be fine for home use.
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#100679 - 02/07/2002 22:52 lip on can [Re: lockuplever]
nt4show
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Califonia
I wondered on my empeg why there was no lip on the upper edge, I though that was a normal thing. Is there suppose to be a lip there? I have the MK2. It should still be under warranty, I bought it in Dec 2001. but ifthey say they are all out of these cans, then what would they even do? Fix it? I would be fu*&^d if they lost it or it got lost in the mail.

Rob
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#100680 - 02/07/2002 23:02 Re: lip on can [Re: nt4show]
lockuplever
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Registered: 30/01/2002
Posts: 264
Loc: Tucson, AZ
email David immediately carsupport@riohome.com he may still have a blank he can send you. If he does, you will need to swap the connector with the wiring harness yourself. 2 screws, no big deal, then send your old sled back to sonicblue.
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#100681 - 10/07/2002 01:00 Re: Received Confirmation from digi-key - Connector [Re: Neutrino]
nt4show
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Califonia
Well I was very happy with the turn around time from the company. I had ordered my parts from them on July 3rd in the morning and I had received them alreay by July 5th. What a suprise and a huge relief since I did not have an extra can or connections for another vehicle. Now begins the task of finding a few cans to build up. Luckily I have the needed tools (crimpers) at my work which I have used in the past on other automotive connections. Hurray for getting these part numbers out to all of us again
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