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#13281 - 12/08/2000 13:54 Re: Success! [Re: rob]
Fogduck
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Registered: 06/06/2000
Posts: 199
Loc: BC
Success!

The IDE connector was almost entirely off the pins. I had to release the drive tray to be able to get at the connector to jam it on hard, but everything's cool now.

Could a guy just put some 3M two-way foam tape down in the empty side of the other drive bay to stick the loose-end of the cable to?

Everything's great so far. Release 1 is installed.

I do have one question: each time I sync, the "checking integrity" always comes up and takes forever (at least 5 minutes -- I don't see the progress bar move, and emplode behaves as if hung until suddenly its happy and moves on) before it gets down to moving files. Is this normal? Should it be checking integrity on EVERY sync?

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#13282 - 12/08/2000 14:05 Re: Success! [Re: Fogduck]
n6mod
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Registered: 27/09/1999
Posts: 200
Loc: Berkeley, CA
Set the clock; that should take care of it.

I don't know exactly what the algorithm is, but the Mk.2's seem to look at the RTC to see if it's time for an fsck. Once you set the clock, it will only check integrity every now and then (or if you've powered down in the middle of a synch, which you should never do)

-Zandr

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#13283 - 12/08/2000 15:51 Re: Success! [Re: n6mod]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Ooo, good catch n6mod.

Should that one be in the FAQ? I mean, I've only seen it this once so far, but it strikes me as something that a lot of people might run into.

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#13284 - 12/08/2000 16:18 Re: Help Please! [Re: tfabris]
fvgestel
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Registered: 12/08/2000
Posts: 702
Loc: Netherlands
Make that four...

I got mine on friday and it had the same symptoms as Alex
Except the last two lines of the boot-sequence are different; I only get rubbish :
empeg-car bootstrap v1.00 20000601 (hugo@empeg.com)
If there is anyone present who wants to upgrade the flash, let them
speak
now,
or forever hold their peace...it seems not. Let fly the Penguins of
Linux!

Copying kernel...
Calling linux kernel...
Uncompressing Linux.................................... done, booting
the
kernel
.
Linux version 2.2.14-rmk5-np17-empeg35 (mac@fatboy.internal.empeg.com)
(gcc
vers
ion 2.95.2 19991024 (release)) #19 Fri Aug 4 15:58:47 BST 2000
Processor: Intel StrongARM-1100 revision 11
NetWinder Floating Point Emulator V0.94.1 (c) 1998 Corel Computer Corp.
empeg-car player (hardware revision 7, serial number 80000144)
Command line: mem=12m temp=28
Calibrating delay loop... 207.67 BogoMIPS
Memory: 11000k/12M available (968k code, 20k reserved, 292k data, 8k
init)
Dentry hash table entries: 2048 (order 2, 16k)
Buffer cache hash table entries: 16384 (order 4, 64k)
Page cache hash table entries: 4096 (order 2, 16k)
POSIX conformance testing by UNIFIX
Linux NET4.0 for Linux 2.2
Based upon Swansea University Computer Society NET3.039
NET4: Linux TCP/IP 1.0 for NET4.0
IP Protocols: ICMP, UDP, TCP
TCP: Hash tables configured (ehash 16384 bhash 16384)
IrDA (tm) Protocols for Linux-2.2 (Dag Brattli)
Linux-IrDA: IrCOMM protocol ( revision:Tue May 18 03:11:39 1999 )
ircomm_tty: virtual tty driver for IrCOMM ( revision:Wed May 26 00:49:11
1999 )
Starting kswapd v 1.5
SA1100 serial driver version 4.27 with no serial options enabled
ttyS00 at 0xf8010000 (irq = 15) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS01 at 0xf8050000 (irq = 17) is a SA1100 UART
ttyS02 at 0xf8030000 (irq = 16) is a SA1100 UART
empeg display initialised.
empeg dspaudio driver initialized
empeg audio-in initialised, CS4231A revision a0
empeg infra-red support initialised.
empeg usb initialised, PDIUSBD12 id 1012
empeg state support initialised 0089/88c1 (save to d0005900).
empeg power-pic driver initialised (first boot)
RAM disk driver initialized: 16 RAM disks of 4096K size
empeg single channel IDE
Probing primary interface...
Probing primary interface...
empeg-flash driver initialized
smc chip id/revision 0x3349
smc9194.c:v0.12 03/06/96 by Erik Stahlman (erik@vt.edu)

SMC9194: SMC91C94(r:9) at 0x4008000 IRQ:7 INTF:TP MEM:6144b MAC
00:02:d7:10:00:9
0
RAMDISK: ext2 filesystem found at block 0
RAMDISK: Loading 320 blocks [1 disk] into ram disk... done.
VFS: Mounted root (ext2 filesystem).
empeg-pump v0.03 (19980601)
Press Ctrl-A to enter
pump...ԕсɽс٥)5oKY
MUѽչсɽс́)5

I have mailed support@empeg.com but haven't received a reply yet.
I hope the solution is as simple as pushing back a cable...

Frank van Gestel
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#13285 - 12/08/2000 16:40 Re: Success! [Re: n6mod]
Fogduck
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Registered: 06/06/2000
Posts: 199
Loc: BC
Hmm. I had set the clock very early on and have done about 4 syncs since.

So far, only ONE sync did NOT go through the full integrity check.

I am wondering which end is deciding to do the integrity check, emplode or the empeg itself. If emplode is deciding, maybe it matters how the two clocks (PC vs. empeg) relate.

(Right now, my empeg is about two minutes ahead of my PC)

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#13286 - 12/08/2000 16:48 Re: Help Please! [Re: fvgestel]
alear
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Registered: 05/07/2000
Posts: 301
Loc: Montana, USA, Bozeman
If the symptoms are the same, I'm sure thats the problem because it seems to be a recurring problem and they didn't realize it was that much of a problem before your's went out.

Alex Lear
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#13287 - 12/08/2000 16:53 Re: Help Please! [Re: fvgestel]
alear
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Registered: 05/07/2000
Posts: 301
Loc: Montana, USA, Bozeman
Rob, have you been able to determine if the connectors are coming loose in shipping or if they were just not pushed on all the way to start with. I can't imagine any bumpy ride that would pull that connector off if it fully pushed on. Who knows, maybe Fedex delivers them by dropping them out the airplane hatch.

Alex Lear
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#13288 - 12/08/2000 17:46 Re: Help Please! [Re: alear]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
I suspect it may be a combination of four factors - assembly, shaking in transit, the 1mm stand-off and movement at the loose end of the cable.

In any case, whatever the true cause, a dab of hot melt glue is a universal solution. I'll instruct the manufacturer to apply it from Monday.

Rob



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#13289 - 12/08/2000 22:53 Re: Help Please! [Re: tfabris]
ShadowMan
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Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 559
Loc: Newfoundland, Canada
It hangs loose... two pictures are attached... i hope... these Labatt Lite aren't helping much with my computer work right now... :)

#170... I got SN: 080000101 12 gig Blue!

Ok.. one will have to do right now.

Edited by ShadowMan on 13/8/00 06:55 AM.



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#13290 - 18/08/2000 15:13 Re: Help Please! [Re: fvgestel]
dangulo
new poster

Registered: 18/08/2000
Posts: 1
Make that 5...
I'm waiting for a reply from support. Has anyone had any problems about Empeg honoring the warranty after the case has been cracked. I'm the impatient type with my own tools.

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#13291 - 18/08/2000 15:27 Re: Help Please! [Re: dangulo]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Empeg has been traditionally good about this sort of thing, but you shouldn't open the player without some proper instruction. You could possibly damage it if you don't know what you're doing.

I'd point you to our adding-a-disk-drive FAQ for instructions on how to properly open the player, but it's not up yet because we're waiting on Mike/Rob to post the formatter files.

More importantly, though, Rob said they should be putting a dab of glue on the connectors since last Monday (Aug 14). When was yours shipped? When you do eventually open the player and fix the loose connector, let us know if the glue was on there or not.

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#13292 - 18/08/2000 17:59 Re: Help Please! [Re: tfabris]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Tony,

I should send you my "how to open a Mk.2 without bending the case horribly and breaking the VFD" email template. It's worth including in the disk drive FAQ.

Few glued players have gone out so far, and I'm certain the connectors won't come off on these players.

Rob



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#13293 - 18/08/2000 18:40 Re: Help Please! [Re: rob]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I should send you my "how to open a Mk.2 without bending the case horribly and breaking the VFD" email template. It's worth including in the disk drive FAQ.

Please do!

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