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#158280 - 02/05/2003 07:15 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: simspos]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Hmm...

Positives:
Gets you drunk
Possibly psychoactive

Negatives:
Expensive
Tastes like anise (yechh)

Oh well. Guess I'll stick to good ol' fashioned beer and assorted liquors for the time being.
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#158281 - 02/05/2003 11:23 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: maczrool]
snoopstah
enthusiast

Registered: 07/01/2002
Posts: 337
Loc: Squamish, BC
Thank you, thank you!

For anyone else who is interested, RS Electronics in the UK sell it - stock number 286-8779.

Last time I used them, they had no minimum order, and a very respectable postage cost.
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#158282 - 02/05/2003 18:46 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: snoopstah]
ricin
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
Looks like I'm going to need one too. I'm interested to see if it works for Tony.

It is intermittent with mine, I see it about once a week or so. Although I'm thinking I should just fix it anyway.
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#158283 - 02/05/2003 19:00 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: ricin]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
It is intermittent with mine, I see it about once a week or so. Although I'm thinking I should just fix it anyway.
Yeah, that's what's happening with me, too.

The "if tuner=3, force DC/Car" feature of Hijack is really working well at alleviating the bulk of the problem, so much so that I'm beginning to debate fixing it at all. Maybe I'll do it in the interest of verifying the digikey part number.
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#158284 - 02/05/2003 19:43 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: snoopstah]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Thanks everyone, for the part numbers, and thanks Mark, for the "If tuner=x" feature in Hijack. I have updated the FAQ entry with these details.
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#158285 - 03/05/2003 06:48 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Good!

I think you are the first person to need/try this feature out and report back!

Thanks!

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#158286 - 04/05/2003 13:50 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mlord]
753
member

Registered: 25/10/1999
Posts: 149
I use the "If tuner=x" feature to let Tempest (my primary empeg) know when it is sitting at home in my selfbuilt cage using the car docking sled. I loose the switch on the ignition sense but that's not a big deal compared to having separate volume settings et cetera. Works great, thank you Mark.
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#158287 - 06/05/2003 05:37 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tonyc]
frog51
pooh-bah

Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
No no no - cheap(ish) and as it is sold in Peckhams, which has a midnight licence, it's dead easy to get. They have 3 different Absinthes (from different countries, I think)
It tastes okay - and tastes much better after the first one. I'd be astonished if you could get any effect like the original, highly psychoactive absinthe these days.

I can't remember the name of the cocktail, but you can get a layered drink of sambuca, goldshlager and absinthe which really does the job!!
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#158288 - 06/05/2003 06:52 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: frog51]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
original, highly psychoactive absinthe
If you read that article I posted above, it's highly unlikely that absinthe ever had any of the properties for which it was banned.
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#158289 - 06/05/2003 10:41 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
mcl
new poster

Registered: 11/12/2002
Posts: 7
Odd. I just upgraded from 2.0b13 to 2.0final, and my AC sensor switch stopped working as well.

It may just be me, but it seems like there's a sudden increase with apparent AC sensor switch failures coinciding with the installation of 2.0 final.


tfabris, I also installed hijack, and have it correctly identifying my tuner and switching to DC mode, but my player won't turn off when I turn the car off, either.


Is it remotely possible there's a bug in 2.0-final that causes this behavior? I'm tempted to revert to 2.0b13 and see if the problem corrects itself.

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#158290 - 06/05/2003 11:05 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mcl]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Is it remotely possible there's a bug in 2.0-final that causes this behavior? I'm tempted to revert to 2.0b13 and see if the problem corrects itself.
No. The problem is purely mechanical, and completely unrelated to software.

Remember that many people had the problem long before that software version, and many people (including myself) ran 2.0 final for quite a while before the problem came up.

The fact that it happened to you when you installed 2.0 final was a complete coincidence.
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#158291 - 06/05/2003 11:42 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
maczrool
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
The datasheet on the jack states that it is rated at 5000 insertions, so some of them are just wearing out.

Stu
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#158292 - 06/05/2003 11:52 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: maczrool]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
The datasheet on the jack states that it is rated at 5000 insertions,
Damn, Ron Jeremy isn't even rated that high.
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#158293 - 06/05/2003 11:55 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tonyc]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I was going to disagree, but it turns out that he's only listed in 1812 (probably NSFW) movies right now. Even though that's bound to miss a few here and there (especially earlier ones, I'd imagine), a ratio of more than two ... performances ... per film doesn't get you there. And many of those are bound to be clips from others.

/me reveals too much of one of his pastimes.
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#158294 - 06/05/2003 11:59 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: wfaulk]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
/me reveals too much of one of his pastimes.
Oh yeah, the secret's out: men like porn.

"Only 1812..." Yeah, what a slacker.
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#158295 - 06/05/2003 12:06 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
mcl
new poster

Registered: 11/12/2002
Posts: 7
Thanks Tony.

So, looking at the digikey part, it's a mechanical problem? I.e., there's a switch in the jack itself?

I don't have my sled and AC adapter handy, but I assume they have slightly different plugs, shaped to trip the switch one way or the other?

I'm considering ordering the part as well.

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#158296 - 06/05/2003 12:13 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mcl]
mtempsch
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Registered: 02/06/2000
Posts: 1996
Loc: Gothenburg, Sweden
but I assume they have slightly different plugs, shaped to trip the switch one way or the other?


No, just plug or no plug. It checks if the plug in the barrel connector is "activated" (by an inserted plug) or not - probably by checking if the leaf switch is grounded or not.

/Michael
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#158297 - 08/05/2003 06:04 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mcl]
altman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
We have literally thousands of these spare, though no easy way to ship them... given they're very cheap standard parts, it's frustrating not to be able to offer to send them out to people!

Hugo

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#158298 - 08/05/2003 06:11 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: altman]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Here's a not-so-novel idea. Grab a whole slew of them and bring them to a few of the empeg meets. Then hand them out to everyone, and they'll be in common supply throughout the community. Chances are when someone needs one, there will be someone in their country (or at least close enough) that won't mind sending one their way.
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#158299 - 08/05/2003 06:32 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tonyc]
altman
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Good idea. Now all the remains to do is to ensure that I don't forget

Hugo

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#158300 - 08/05/2003 06:42 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: altman]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Don't have any bright ideas to solve that problem. If I did, I'd probably have done much better in school.
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#158301 - 08/05/2003 06:51 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tonyc]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Yeah. As it is, you only have that measly Master's Degree.
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#158302 - 08/05/2003 06:52 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: wfaulk]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Good point. I guess my GPA isn't printed anywhere on either of my diplomas.
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#158303 - 08/05/2003 10:35 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: altman]
mlord
carpal tunnel

Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Yeah, bring a bunch to Amersfoort -- I can probably take a handful of them with me on my journey home.

Cheers

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#158304 - 09/05/2003 22:32 Shucshess! [Re: tonyc]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
Damn, Ron Jeremy isn't even rated that high.
Well, we'll find out how many insertions the DigiKey part lasts for. I just got the parts in today and did the replacement job. Everything went smoothly.

Well, as smoothly as it could have. It's time consuming to completely dismantle the player like that, and it takes some care to desolder the old part. And getting everything nicely put back together with the display board and the fascia nice and straight takes a while. The actual installation of the new part took only seconds.

Anyway it works now, the Digikey replacement part number was exactly right. Thanks, Stu!
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#158305 - 10/05/2003 08:16 Re: Shucshess! [Re: tfabris]
maczrool
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
You're welcome! Now just update the FAQ to reflect your findings.

Stu
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#158306 - 10/05/2003 08:55 Re: Shucshess! [Re: maczrool]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
I did before I made the post.
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#158307 - 10/05/2003 09:16 Re: Shucshess! [Re: tfabris]
maczrool
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
I read it, but not close enough! I see now that it says all part numbers except Digikey are unverified. Missed that when I made the post. Thanks Tony!

Stu
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#158308 - 15/05/2003 17:47 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: tfabris]
mcl
new poster

Registered: 11/12/2002
Posts: 7
Thanks, Tony.

I thought I'd follow up, because I FIXED IT!

I used a tool that looks like a dental pick (though I'm fairly sure it wasn't, being in our electronics lab at work), and carefully inserted it between the metal "tongue" visible in the jack and the inside side of the jack, then twisted. In effect, this lifted the tongue a bit, as well as pushed it away from the side of the jack.

The insertion point was near the highest point of the tongue, though I tried to work the tongue all along its length.

I made sure to do this on both sides of the tongue, as the left side seemed quite a bit closer to the side of the jack than the right.

After a few minutes of this "Fun With Levers!" exercise, the player was correctly distinguishing between home (AC) and car (no AC).

It seems that the failure mode, at least for my jack, was a stuck tongue. It didn't seem to be broken or to have lost its "springiness", so perhaps there's a bit of a design flaw in these parts that allows the tongue to get stuck in the "down" (i.e., AC plug inserted) position?

That, or repeated use of the plug causes the tongue to deviate enough from its normal non-insertion position that it's always in contact with the plate beneath it?

Either way, this was a dead-simple fix that didn't require opening the unit, and runs very little risk of breaking anything (unless you're hideously strong or have a tool that provides you with excellent leverage, you won't even see any visible give in the tongue while prying it up.)

Hope this helps someone else.


Edited by mcl (15/05/2003 19:58)

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#158309 - 15/05/2003 19:30 Re: AC Shensor Shwitch [Re: mcl]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31563
Loc: Seattle, WA
I see what you're saying, but I'll bet you it starts to fail again within a couple of weeks.
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