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#158405 - 01/05/2003 10:27 mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts?
CHiP
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Any thoughts on supporting the new mp4 standard on the empeg? I just found out about this ACC standard, so I have not heard it yet. Does anyone know of any encoders and/or players that will use it now on a windows machine?

http://www.apple.com/mpeg4/aac/

http://www.vialicensing.com/products/mpeg4aac/standard.html

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#158406 - 01/05/2003 10:55 Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? [Re: CHiP]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Licensing the codec is easy. Playing Apple's protected files is probably not.

Rob

PS. It's AAC

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#158407 - 01/05/2003 10:58 Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? [Re: rob]
CHiP
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 345
Loc: New Jersey, USA
ok, fixed to aac.... any plans on when mp4 will be supported by empeg?
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#158408 - 01/05/2003 11:08 Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? [Re: CHiP]
psalm
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Registered: 01/05/2003
Posts: 5
Well, considering that support for the Empeg ends this month. Probably never. I'm hoping someone will come up with a solution to it, as I would really like to be able to play the tunes from apples music site.

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#158409 - 01/05/2003 11:09 Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? [Re: psalm]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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support for the Empeg ends this month
Right. ``Support''. Which, in this case, means ``fixing broken ones''.
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#158410 - 01/05/2003 11:09 Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? [Re: psalm]
loren
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Well, considering that support for the Empeg ends this month. Probably never.

not true. read this thread.
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#158411 - 01/05/2003 11:26 Re: mp4 - ACC - support? Thoughts? [Re: loren]
psalm
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Registered: 01/05/2003
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Well that's good to know

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#158412 - 09/10/2003 23:26 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: CHiP]
deborah
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Registered: 09/10/2003
Posts: 8
Loc: SF, CA
well, a work around that you may have already tried, if there is something you MUST have, I have found that converters will convert mp4s to wav files (yes, I know YUK!) but alas, though I tried, going from mp4 to wav to mpg with only errors to show

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#158413 - 10/10/2003 00:44 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: deborah]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
Whoa, nifty web site. Nice work.

Filled out profile, complete with avatar, before the first post. Neat avatar, too.

Impressed.

Welcome.

but alas, though I tried, going from mp4 to wav to mpg with only errors to show
Questions: Did the WAV file play correctly? What tools were used at each stage?
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#158414 - 10/10/2003 00:49 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
Oops, points docked. Avatar not exact size for this BBS.
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#158415 - 10/10/2003 16:06 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: tfabris]
deborah
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Registered: 09/10/2003
Posts: 8
Loc: SF, CA
i'm on a mac primarily, but i used SoundConverter to convert the mp4 to a wav file. Then I used "get info" to change the "open with app type" from quicktime to itunes (don't ask me why I did this) then I ftp'd the file to the pc (jempg for the mac is WAY too buggy) and loaded it that way, word of caution, for some reason 1 out of 5 attemps to load into emplode gave me an error - so, go figure [WAV identity failed] - i have emailed the iTunes support team on if I can redownload purchased music as mp3s, first off - i doubt they will get back to me, and second, I'm almost positive they will say no :/

ok - i'll fix the avatar

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#158416 - 10/10/2003 16:14 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: deborah]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
1 out of 5 attemps to load into emplode gave me an error - so, go figure [WAV identity failed]
That's very odd. Never heard of that before.

If you double-click on one of those WAV files on the PC, will it play?
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#158417 - 10/10/2003 16:21 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: tfabris]
deborah
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Registered: 09/10/2003
Posts: 8
Loc: SF, CA
yes, wav files play everytime on the PC (windows media), it's just the loading on the empeg that's the hitch, some sort of internal security tag i guess

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#158418 - 10/10/2003 16:25 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: deborah]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
Can't imagine anything about the internals of the empeg software having a problem with the file like that... it doesn't try to do any security at all...

What version of the player software and emplode software are you running? (There is an ABOUT menu on both Emplode and on the player.) And by the way, instructions on how to put the latest ones in place are here in case you don't have them.
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#158419 - 10/10/2003 16:38 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: tfabris]
deborah
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Registered: 09/10/2003
Posts: 8
Loc: SF, CA
version 2.0 on the player, 1.1.10.8 on the software

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#158420 - 10/10/2003 16:43 Re: mp4 - AAC - support? Thoughts? [Re: deborah]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
Interesting. If emplode really does say 1.1, it shouldn't be able to upload to the player at all. They both need to be 2.0 or else you should get an error in emplode.

Unless you're talking about JEmplode, that's a different monkey....
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