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#161974 - 17/05/2003 09:50 WHAT TO DO?
Mulkman
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Registered: 17/05/2003
Posts: 14
Loc: Peterborough, UK
Since the support facility is disabled at the mo', I don't have the facility to do a drive upgrade (currently 12G, Blue, but need space for 45G). If anyone has a Mk II empeg with greater than 30G capacity, I might be interested. Otherwise, with a heavy heart, I'll have to market my own one (unless current support crisis resolves) and look for alternatives. Drop us a line if any suggestions/ offers. Anyone local confident doing drive upgrades? (England).

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#161975 - 17/05/2003 09:56 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
Since the support facility is disabled at the mo',
sort of.
I don't have the facility to do a drive upgrade
La la la I don't believe you

I did a drive upgrade using only my empeg and something to connect to it serially with. If you don't have both, how the heck are you getting music on it?

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#161976 - 17/05/2003 10:02 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Daria]
Mulkman
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Registered: 17/05/2003
Posts: 14
Loc: Peterborough, UK
Can you attach an external drive thru the serial port??

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#161977 - 17/05/2003 10:04 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
No, you need a small phillips screwdriver and a small hex key to open it and install the drive the right way. If you tell me you're trying to avoid voiding the warranty I will laugh.

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#161978 - 17/05/2003 10:08 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Daria]
Mulkman
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Registered: 17/05/2003
Posts: 14
Loc: Peterborough, UK
Thanks for your help. Actually I'm quite a home opening up someones' belly and taking out their rotten appendix....I'm an MD....but don't ask me to open a friggin' piece of gizmo like the Empeg!!! Each to their own.

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#161979 - 17/05/2003 10:10 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
If you haven't killed anyone yet, the FAQ should tell you in sufficient detail how to also not kill your empeg.

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#161980 - 17/05/2003 10:11 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
It seems that there are enough empeg owners in England, that surely someone could upgrade your drives for you. I don't think that you'll have to sell it.
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#161981 - 17/05/2003 10:11 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
Mulkman
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Registered: 17/05/2003
Posts: 14
Loc: Peterborough, UK
I'd rather have a dead patient than a dead Empeg!! EWhich would you love more??!!

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#161982 - 17/05/2003 10:12 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
Daria
carpal tunnel

Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
I'm a bitter cranky person. I don't love anyone.

Ask my wife!

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#161983 - 17/05/2003 10:13 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Laura]
Mulkman
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Registered: 17/05/2003
Posts: 14
Loc: Peterborough, UK
If there is someone in UK able to do the job, I'll gladly let them and for a decent price.

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#161984 - 17/05/2003 10:13 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Daria]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
Yes you are
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#161985 - 17/05/2003 10:15 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
You really don't need anything special to upgrade your empeg, except for a new HD, a screwdriver, a hex tool and the FAQ which you've already been linked to. Everything else you need was shipped with your Empeg when you bought it.

Just follow the FAQ, it's really easy and pretty bulletproof.
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#161986 - 17/05/2003 10:15 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Daria]
Mulkman
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Registered: 17/05/2003
Posts: 14
Loc: Peterborough, UK
Bitter and cranky is all I ever feel too, trying to squish the choiciest bits of 45G worth of music onto a 12G player!

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#161987 - 17/05/2003 10:18 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: BartDG]
Mulkman
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Registered: 17/05/2003
Posts: 14
Loc: Peterborough, UK
Any suggestions for a decent drive; u never know, I might try my hand someday out of desperation!!

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#161988 - 17/05/2003 10:19 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
Give someone time to answer. Most of the people check the boards during the week. Weekends are a little slow, especially in the warmer months.
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#161989 - 17/05/2003 10:19 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Pretty much any laptop drive. Don't spend the extra on a fast rpm as the car won't utilize it any better. Hitachi Travelstars seem to be the drive of choice.

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#161990 - 17/05/2003 10:21 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
Laura
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Registered: 16/06/2000
Posts: 1682
Loc: Greenhills, Ohio
Go with the Hitachi 80GB, that way you will have room to grow in the future.
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#161991 - 17/05/2003 10:21 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
BartDG
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Registered: 20/05/2001
Posts: 2616
Loc: Bruges, Belgium
Yes, accept nothing but a Hitachi (formerly IBM) travelstar drive. I've never known one of those to fail. You can find them up to 80gig nowadays, but in your case a 60gig or even a 40gig will do fine.
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#161992 - 17/05/2003 10:21 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Everyone here is encouraging you to do the drive upgrade yourself. I agree that it's do-able by just about anyone (and many here will attest to the completeness of the instructions). But we should all keep in mind there are people in the world who are downright dangerous with a screwdriver. If you're one of those people, then yeah, find someone nearby who'll do the upgrade for you. Like you said, a dead empeg is a scary thing, and for you, it might be worth the peace of mind to have an experienced person do the work.
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#161993 - 17/05/2003 10:23 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Hitachi Travelstars
Which, more often than not, carry the IBM Travelstar branding instead.
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#161994 - 17/05/2003 10:24 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: tonyc]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
And??

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#161995 - 17/05/2003 10:24 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
I'd rather have a dead patient than a dead Empeg!! EWhich would you love more??!!
Note to self: When sick or injured in the UK, if at all possible, wait until returning home before seeking medical attention.
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#161996 - 17/05/2003 10:25 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: tfabris]
Mulkman
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Registered: 17/05/2003
Posts: 14
Loc: Peterborough, UK
Yeah, I don't like taking a screwdriver to a gadget....have put plenty of bits of metal into broken hips and ankles though!! And yes, they were successful and walked again!!

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#161997 - 17/05/2003 10:25 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Just pointing it out in case he wants to do a Pricewatch search or something...
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#161998 - 17/05/2003 10:25 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: tonyc]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Note to self: When sick or injured in the UK, if at all possible, wait until returning home before seeking medical attention.
Heh, I had the opposite reaction. I trust a man who's got his priorities straight.
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#161999 - 17/05/2003 10:26 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: tfabris]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Unless you're the patient!
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#162000 - 17/05/2003 10:26 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: tonyc]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Oh right, I thought there was something about the drives being different or something. Sorry

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#162001 - 17/05/2003 10:48 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: CrackersMcCheese]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

Okay, I read the board in flat mode, so I may be in the wrong thread, but...

Where are you in England? If you are in the Cambridge area, you might be able to make a house call (sorry, I had to do that) to Empeg Towers and have someone there do your upgrade.

I strongly recommend the 80GB drives, so you have the space to grow. It sounds like you likely have a one drive configuration, so you should just be able to add on rather than replace your existing drive.

And I can understand your reluctance. Some people are not comfortable messing around with devices / electronics / tools. I am certain someone here will be able to assist.
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#162002 - 17/05/2003 13:06 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Rob is still accepting orders on behalf of SB through the end of May, and is on contract to work through June to ensure he has time to take care of them. Between you, me and the world there will continue to be a support service after that also - details to be announced.

Rob

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#162003 - 17/05/2003 13:56 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Daria]
mwest
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Registered: 01/05/2003
Posts: 768
Loc: Ada, Oklahoma
You just like to pretend like your a bitter cranky person...
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#162004 - 17/05/2003 16:36 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: BartDG]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
My 30GB travelstar died a horrible death, so they're not foolproof. Still a good choice, though.

-ml

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#162005 - 17/05/2003 19:00 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
oliver
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Registered: 02/04/2002
Posts: 691
I'd rather have a dead patient than a dead Empeg!! EWhich would you love more??!!

I guess my question would be, what would you do if one of your patients had an empeg, and didn't want to leave it in his car before having surgery.

Would you...
Think nothing of it, and help him out
Take his empeg, and still be nice and help him out, but sneak out before he wakes back up
Take his empeg, "pretend" to help him, but actually kill him
Just kill him, after taking him empeg



I'm just kidding with all of this, but its still pretty funny reading that quote
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#162006 - 17/05/2003 22:26 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: oliver]
Waterman981
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Registered: 14/02/2002
Posts: 804
Loc: Salt Lake City, UT
I voted for the first one, but what if I didn't already have an empeg. Then it would probably be the second one. I'm just glad I have my baby.
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#162007 - 17/05/2003 22:45 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: mwest]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
You just like to pretend like your a bitter cranky person...

Is it believable? I can try harder...

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#162008 - 18/05/2003 07:41 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
tracerbullet
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Registered: 08/01/2002
Posts: 419
Loc: Minnesota
I'm thinking, MD... works in hospital... lots of high-tech equiopment... probably has a few IT guys around that would be perfectly safe (especially with a copy of the instructions) to work on a "relatively simple" hard drive change?

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#162009 - 19/05/2003 07:01 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
h_blake
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Registered: 22/05/2001
Posts: 50
Loc: Bedford, UK
If you still want someone to do the upgrade for you I can do it.
I live reasonably close to you too so it shouldn't be too much hassle.


Edited by h_blake (19/05/2003 07:01)
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#162010 - 19/05/2003 23:25 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: rob]
lockuplever
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Registered: 30/01/2002
Posts: 264
Loc: Tucson, AZ
Between you, me and the world there will continue to be a support service after that also - details to be announced.

That's nice to hear.
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#162011 - 20/05/2003 10:02 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: oliver]
suomi35
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Registered: 16/02/2002
Posts: 290
Loc: Denver, CO
Actually, I was looking for the 'Keep it safe for them, but copy all the music I wanted from it while the patient was in post-op' option in the poll
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#162012 - 21/05/2003 09:09 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
phaigh
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Registered: 04/11/1999
Posts: 649
Loc: Reading, UK
I know that there is at least one offer already, but if you are really considering selling the empeg just to get a drive upgrade, I'm happy to do the upgrade for you.

I've already successfully done one transplant on my empeg and it's still working (which is nice). In fact I need to do another one anyway, so it might be opportune timing.

Although I will say that it's actually a pretty easy process - probably hardest is getting the damn case apart, but if you are careful and read the FAQ carefully it's no problem.

Cheers,

Paul. (Reading, UK)
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#162013 - 21/05/2003 09:51 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: Mulkman]
csf
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Registered: 08/04/2002
Posts: 105
Loc: Charlotte, NC
I'd love to help but I'm in the States. The drive upgrade is quite easy, I wouldn't fret it at all. It just involves 12 screws - eight of which you can see from the outside of the empeg.

The only other tricky piece is attaching a hard drive cable.

An MD is just like an engineer, they both fix broken things and make existing systems work better!
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#162014 - 21/05/2003 10:53 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: csf]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
True. But I can understand the concern. I am not that mechanically inclined, and have managed to injure myself on more than one occasion doing something simple. Even Mark, accomplished woodworker that he is (thanks! those docks are great!), still injured himself while working on them. I can easily see this being a concern for a surgeon - I personally would not want to take that risk, especially if I was not very comfortable working with computer hardware.
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#162015 - 21/05/2003 12:08 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: pgrzelak]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
I could be wrong, but I think he injured himself while packaging one.
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#162016 - 21/05/2003 14:43 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: wfaulk]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
It could very well be, but it is still an injury. Most injuries (and accidents) happen under rather mundane and sometimes embarassing circumstances.
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#162017 - 21/05/2003 15:39 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: pgrzelak]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
In reply to:

Most injuries (and accidents) happen under rather mundane and sometimes embarassing circumstances.




You mean like in There's Something About Mary ?

Stu
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#162018 - 21/05/2003 15:45 Re: WHAT TO DO? [Re: pgrzelak]
CrackersMcCheese
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
Yeah, I mean you hear the stats on the radio every year...

258 people were injured by putting on their socks etc etc

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