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#17657 - 13/09/2000 23:54 Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT?
Tino
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Registered: 02/09/1999
Posts: 18
Loc: The Netherlands
I have a question:
When ordering from the Netherlands,
do you have to pay VAT and if so,
how much is the percentage of it?

I have never known how this thing work when ordering from another European country etc...
I really need to know how much i will have to pay allin for the palyer before ordering it...

Thanks in advance


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#17658 - 14/09/2000 06:40 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: Tino]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
As an individual you pay 17.5% VAT on the entire order.

If you're a registered business, and you provide your VAT number, you don't have to pay it.

Rob



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#17659 - 14/09/2000 07:03 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: rob]
Tino
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Registered: 02/09/1999
Posts: 18
Loc: The Netherlands
17,5 % VAT on the entire order is huge :(

What kind of company do you have to have to be able to provide your VAT number when purchasing the Empeg in the Netherlands?

Or is there a way of avoiding the 17,5% VAT?

The VAT would really KILL ME :-(
(want to buy the 18 GB version)


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#17660 - 14/09/2000 07:11 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: Tino]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
...any trading entity legally recognised within the EU (Ltd, Plc, {UK} NV, BV, Eenmanzaak {NL}, others such as SA {F}) that is registered in one member state of the EU. I am entitled to VAT exemeption on either my Ltd in yUK or my BV in NL.

It's not a good idea to think about trying to avoid BTW/VAT on private purchases, as the government where you reside usually has deeper legal fund pockets than you - and it's breaking the law anyway.

(And YES, I am a scaredy puss {"Waatje!"}, having read the rules and discovered what they can do to company directors who either break the law themselves or allow their employees to - *ULP*)

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#17661 - 14/09/2000 07:35 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: Tino]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
What is the VAT rate in the Netherlands then? I suspect it's at least 10%...

Hugo



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#17662 - 14/09/2000 08:14 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: schofiel]
Tino
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Registered: 02/09/1999
Posts: 18
Loc: The Netherlands
Schofiel,

did you had to pay VAT for purchasing your empeg?
If not, why not?

***Dutch Language***
Ik weet dat je natuurlijk altijd wel BTW moet betalen, maar ik was benieuwd of het mogelijk is om voor de aanschaf van de Empeg een desnoods laget BTW percentage te betalen dan de 17,5% die ik nu zou betalen.
Ik ben geen echt vermogend persoon, dus de aanschaf van de Empeg is een ware RIP uit mijn lijf.
Heb jij hier ideeen over?
Alvast bedankt
***/Dutch Language***


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#17663 - 14/09/2000 08:40 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: Tino]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
17,5 % VAT on the entire order is huge

It's comparable with most EC countries (I believe the range is around 15% to 20%). In other words, it's just the same tax you would have to pay if you bought a stereo from a local shop.

What kind of company do you have to have to be able to provide your VAT number when purchasing the Empeg

I don't mean to be facetious but you have to be the kind of company that has a VAT number. If you don't know what that means, I would guess that you don't have one.

Regards

Rob



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#17664 - 14/09/2000 08:44 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: schofiel]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
...any trading entity legally recognised within the EU (Ltd, Plc, {UK} NV, BV, Eenmanzaak {NL}, others such as SA {F}) that is registered in one member state of the EU.

It isn't really related to your company registration - you have to be registered for VAT. This means you have to charge VAT on anything you sell (except in special cases) and you get to claim back the VAT on anything you buy. You can be a sole trader with no company identity and still be registered for VAT. You can also be a Ltd company and not be registered for VAT.

Rob



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#17665 - 14/09/2000 16:20 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: Tino]
wvloon
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Registered: 13/08/2000
Posts: 82
Loc: Near Arnhem, Netherlands
[dutch]
Een lager tarief is niet mogelijk, dit soort artikelen valt nu eenmaal onder de 17.5% regeling. De enige manier om geen BTW te betalen is (zoals gezegd) een eigen bedrijf hebben (zoals ik). Je hebt dan een BTW nummer (ongeacht of je een eenmanszaak of NV bent). Je kunt 'm dan zonder BTW bestellen en het verekenen met je omzetbelasting (als ie voor "de zaak" is tenminste).

De belastingdienst, leuker kunnen we het niet maken, wel veel duurder
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#17666 - 15/09/2000 06:02 Re: Ordering from The Netherlands, VAT? [Re: altman]
schofiel
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Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
17.5%, unforch.

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