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#212226 - 05/04/2004 10:50 Name that car
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Any idea what this car is? The green one on the right of the garage entrance

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#212227 - 05/04/2004 10:53 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Looks like a 1965ish Aston Martin DB6 to me.

Edit: Although, the tail lights don't look right. But everything else does - including the rims.

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#212228 - 05/04/2004 11:20 Re: Name that car [Re: trs24]
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It looks like some kind of Lancia/Fiat to me, definitely Italian in feel, thought it might be an Aston Zagato but I can't find anything with those tail lamps

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#212229 - 05/04/2004 11:21 Re: Name that car [Re: trs24]
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Nope. Not an Aston

Here is a close-up of it:


Edited by furtive (05/04/2004 11:35)
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#212230 - 05/04/2004 12:29 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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I was thinking of something like a Citroen or a Saab ???

Cheers

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#212231 - 05/04/2004 13:55 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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I wanted to say Opel GT but it is not quite. It is achingly familiar though.....

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#212232 - 05/04/2004 13:56 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Nope. Not an Aston
Dang! I thought I had it. Although, looking at it closer, the tail is too skinny. Although, ALL the other details are almost spot-on. Those rims are very indicitive of the DB6. Whatever it is, it must use the same frame. It's gotta be a 1965-1970 *something* GT.

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#212233 - 05/04/2004 13:57 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Maybe an Opel????

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#212234 - 05/04/2004 14:24 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Don't suppose we could get a front view could we!? This is gnawing at me now!

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#212235 - 05/04/2004 14:40 Re: Name that car [Re: Half_Geek]
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Sadly the guy who took the picture didn't think to take a front view.

It's *nearly* a Ferrari 275, but not quite. I'm wondering if it is a kit car replica of a 275.

This is what one is supposed to look like:

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#212236 - 05/04/2004 14:44 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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I was thinking a Saab Sonett, but it just doesn't look right.

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#212237 - 05/04/2004 14:49 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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First thought I had was "man, you don't want to drop a bag of golf balls there!"

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#212238 - 05/04/2004 14:51 Re: Name that car [Re: Phoenix42]
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No, it isn't. I don't claim to be a Sonett expert, but I have seen a ton of them the last couple years. None of them looked like that.
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#212239 - 05/04/2004 14:52 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Name that car

My wife says she thinks it is called Fred, but that probably isn't too helpful
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#212240 - 05/04/2004 15:34 Re: Name that car [Re: g_attrill]
trs24
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First thought I had was "man, you don't want to drop a bag of golf balls there!"
LMAO picturing that scenario.

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#212241 - 05/04/2004 15:54 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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I'm guessing its a Lambo, I just cant figure out what year yet...
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#212242 - 05/04/2004 16:03 Re: Name that car [Re: ithoughti]
trs24
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Anybody know any police officers in the SF area that could just look up that license plate number for us?

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#212243 - 05/04/2004 16:21 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Hmm! It's too familiar - I am pretty sure it is a legit model. It just has loads of styling cues in there as well. The haunches and back screen angle give the Aston DB look, that cut-off back says Ginetta/Ferrari/Opel or similar to me. But it appears to have a moderate looking single exhaust on it, and those knock-on hubs look authentic which must date it.

Those tail lights look identical to the 308, and there does look to be something Ferrari-ish about it, except for that little exhaust!!

I still have a nagging feeling it is might be a US model, but I'm not that good on all the different models and years there!

(This is annoying now... I'm going to sleep on it and hope for inspiration!!)

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#212244 - 06/04/2004 02:55 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Definitively, this is a rear engined Fiat 850 from the early 70's. I know, because I used to share a flat with a guy that owned one: for which reason, when I get home, I may well be able to find a photo of one from my collection.
At the time, and this is mainly for Rob's benefit, I was driving one of a handful of 1969, 1700c.c. freewheel, Saab 99's, from the 1969 London Motor Show, which differed substantially from the production version. This was the first of my four 99's. Regrettably, when I had my eyes on the first of the turbos, the ad. agency that I worked for acquired the British Leyland account and we all had to have Rover SD 1's - the worst car that I ever owned. I never did get back to being a Saab driver!

Ooops!!!! No it isn't, it's an Opel Kadett from the same period, sorry, I won't go into a long explanation of what was misleading me.
N.B. It's not quite the same model as the one shown in the link.


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#212245 - 06/04/2004 03:04 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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Definitively, this is a rear engined Fiat 850 from the early 70's

Interestingly, while Google Images turns up a bunch of 1970-model Fiat 850's that do look like this car, none of them have the "gills" behind the quarterlight. Maybe it's a post-1974 model?

Edit: It is very similar to the 1966 850 Coupe, though: http://personal.inet.fi/private/illu/fiat_850_coupe.htm



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#212246 - 06/04/2004 03:12 Re: Name that car [Re: Roger]
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Yep, but it's the grilles for the rear engine that I should have gone by in identifying it.
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#212247 - 06/04/2004 05:47 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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I can't find a single image of an Open Kadett or a Fiat 850 that looks like the original picture.

The Kadett doesn't have the gills
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#212248 - 06/04/2004 06:04 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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When I first saw the photo I thought of an old Opel or Alfa Romeo.

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#212249 - 06/04/2004 06:16 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Neither can I, I'll get stuck into my "Every car sold in Britain 1945 - 1980", when I get home, but, of course, they'll mainly be front views. It's definitely not the Fiat though.
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#212250 - 06/04/2004 06:22 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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The Opel Kadett was front-engined though, (as with the Vauxhall Chevette variants)?

The 850 was a chunk smaller than the one in the picture looks, but it is hard to gauge size. Fiat did do a number of coupes though, and the ferrari lights go along with that.

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#212251 - 06/04/2004 07:12 Re: Name that car [Re: Half_Geek]
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Goddam!! This is driving me mad, I've been surfing for the last hour - what's bugging me is that I'm sure that car was around in numbers at one-time, it just seems so familiar.
I take the point on the Ferrari lights, and the rear shape just seemed to say Farina, hence I was sure on the Fiat - but then, when I looked and saw that the 850 had those grills on the lid, that was out.
Then I recollected that, we parked Saab, Fiat and the other guy had a yellow Opel Kadett coupe, next to each other.
I've looked at Alfas, Ferraris, Lancias and even Datsuns.
If I haven't solved it tonight, I'm going to bounce it on to a couple of experts of my acquaintnace, one's the motoring correspondent of the Daily Telegraph.
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#212252 - 06/04/2004 07:44 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Hmmm...could it be an A550X, have to look for some photos.

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#212253 - 06/04/2004 07:49 Re: Name that car [Re: rtundo]
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A550X

It's got the three distinctive slits, but not the rear windows: http://zhome.com/History/Truth/A550Xvs240Z.htm
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#212254 - 06/04/2004 08:31 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Looks like an Opel.

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#212255 - 06/04/2004 08:43 Re: Name that car [Re: Jerz]
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I can finally put you all, and myself, out of out collective misery.

It's a Ford. Well, it's based on a Ford anyway - a based on a Ford Taunus 20m TS.

It is an OSI 20m TS to be exact.

http://www.taunus.nl/OSI/eng/eng.htm
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#212256 - 06/04/2004 09:17 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Ack! I even ran across the Ford Taunus in my searches, but I passed it off as a mispelled Ford Taurus. If only I had clicked on those links. Ah well, I can finally concentrate on work now. That contest was consuming me! Cool Ford, too.

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#212257 - 06/04/2004 09:20 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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Thanks for putting me out of my misery, now I'll have to spend just as long finding out about OSI - and it looked so familiar!
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#212258 - 06/04/2004 09:26 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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So, where did this contest originate from? Is there a regular "Name that Car" contest that you're referring to here?

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#212259 - 06/04/2004 09:38 Re: Name that car [Re: trs24]
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A friend of mine took the photo on a trip to SFO last week and wanted help identifying the car.

Not a regular competition, unless you want to make it one...
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#212260 - 06/04/2004 13:51 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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Same here - it may just have so many similarities that it instantly looks familiar, but I was sure it was fairly well-known. But I can't find much info on OSI that I can translate!! Not sure if it was available in the UK, but I am intrigued by the mention of Ford M-Models (http://www.ford-m-modelle.de) which seem to be a subset of Fords.

I thought I had a fair knowledge of recent classics (or UK at least), so that was really bugging me!! Better luck next time!

I actually have a Ford Taunus parts catalogue up in the roof - wonder if it covers these....

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#212261 - 07/04/2004 01:07 Re: Name that car [Re: Half_Geek]
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It's not in my "every car sold in Britain 45 - 80 book", but one of the cars on one of those sites has a UK reg. I'm going to bounce it on to "Honest John" at the Daily Telegraph, who has a special section for this sort of thing (We grew up together, half a century ago in Orpington)
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#212262 - 07/04/2004 02:57 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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You know Honest John? I am not worthy! You could post it in the "Back Room" of his site for starters I guess.

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#212263 - 07/04/2004 03:25 Re: Name that car [Re: g_attrill]
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I wouldn't say knew so much, as we did have some correspondence a couple of years back identifying that we thought that we knew each other in our youth and could identify long gone people and places.
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#212264 - 07/04/2004 07:52 Re: Name that car [Re: g_attrill]
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Honest John's reply:

OSI was an Italian coachbuilder. The car in the photo is an OSI bodied FIAT 124

So those of us that thought Fiat and Italian were basically along the right lines.
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#212265 - 07/04/2004 08:53 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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Great, thanks. I've passed the info onto the photographer.
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#212266 - 07/04/2004 11:07 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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The car in the photo is an OSI bodied FIAT 124
So, now I'm thoroughly confused. Was it a Ford 20m TS of a Fiat 124? It most certainly looks more like the former. Or am I just misunderstanding you?

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#212267 - 07/04/2004 14:37 Re: Name that car [Re: trs24]
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I think it's a Ford, not a Fiat, and Honest John is wrong.

He is also wrong when he says this:

Lots of dodgy second-hand Eurons Roadster imports about.

Uncertificated Eunos Roadsters imported by traders after May 1998 could not legally be registered, so any Eunos Roadster might be a 'clone'.
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#212268 - 08/04/2004 03:03 Re: Name that car [Re: furtive]
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I think it's a Ford, not a Fiat, and Honest John is wrong

If I get 10 mins. I'll look for it, but there was mention of Fiats as well as Fords on one of those German or Dutch sites - but I guess the guy can't know everything, he replied to my email in minutes, so I suppose he must have been fairly certain.

You're on your own with the Eunos: Another marque that I'd never heard of until this thread started!
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#212269 - 08/04/2004 05:27 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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I'm going with the Ford. There is mention of the OSI Cross Country based on the Fiat 124 under the OSI link on this site http://www.carsfromitaly.com/others/index.html, but the similarity escapes me!!

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#212270 - 08/04/2004 10:13 Re: Name that car [Re: boxer]
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You're on your own with the Eunos: Another marque that I'd never heard of until this thread started!

Eunos = Mazda sub-brand, but only in Japan.

Mazda MX5 (Europe) = Eunos Roadster (Japan) = Miata (US)
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