#224949 - 28/06/2004 05:09
empeg.css contest
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I'll just quote what I had on the down notice: Know CSS? Care to lend a hand by cleaning up the empeg.css file? Download this and edit the empeg.css file. Page1.htm and Page2.htm contain example pages from the new board to test the file against. All the new entries added by the new software start at blockquote and go to the end. Right now they are just set to the defaults. If you do choose to change it, upload the final version here in this thread.
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#224950 - 28/06/2004 12:32
Re: empeg.css contest
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I will see what I can do to fix the CSS today... I will post this eve...
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#224952 - 28/06/2004 19:47
Re: empeg.css contest
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I like this... Although I might be the only one. 
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#224954 - 29/06/2004 17:37
Re: empeg.css contest
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Not bad. Maybe a little too bright, but OK, I guess. 
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#224956 - 29/06/2004 18:09
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: Micman2b]
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The dark blue that contains the subjects of posts in flat mode would seem to fit in the color scheme yet be different enough to make it call itself out on the index page.
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#224957 - 29/06/2004 20:18
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: Micman2b]
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OK. How about this? I changed the quotes too, so they look like the [q ] quotes.
Also, Tom, if you could add ids to the lightbulb icons in the HTML, then we can turn them on/off within different styles; that would give people the choice. Set the "nonewposts.gif" icon to have id="nonewpostsicon" and "newposts.gif" to have id="newpostsicon" and in my stylesheet those are hidden.
Edit: Whoops, I attached the wrong one. Now it's right. 
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224464-ricinempeg.css (93 downloads)
Edited by ricin (29/06/2004 20:24)
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#224958 - 29/06/2004 22:21
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: ricin]
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In that same vein, I got bored this afternoon and decided to get this off my chest.
If a picture is worth a thousand words, a slideshow must be... well... a lot more expensive.
Clicky Clicky.
Dunno how much of this can be covered by the CSS or not...
Hope y'all find it amusing. 
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#224959 - 29/06/2004 22:34
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: tfabris]
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LOL,
and the file is still small enough to make it an attachment.
I agree with most except for the last one. I like seeing what the new post subject is. The link text needs to loose its bolding though,.
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#224960 - 29/06/2004 23:10
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: tfabris]
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::gasps while looking at reply page:: Ok, that's just a little shock to the system after seeing Tony's simplification.
I vote for Tony's CSS (if... that was a CSS he did, and not just a Photoshopped image of the BBS page...). The simplification is great. (woah, no word wrapping in reply... a user preference maybe? i'll have to check).
Are there any planned changes to the lists of posts? ie: setting the "new post indicator" to be an orange icon on the left instead of making the whole thing shaded white (though the shading isn't so bad).
And any planned changes to viewing threads themselves? ie: setting the "new post indicator" to be the orange left icon instead of the white shading, as above. And removing the "new"
Lastly, any planned changes to the reply page? ie: remove all icons, instant icons, instant code, color, etc?
Stupid me, I hope these aren't all user options that I didn't "RTFM" and check first.
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#224961 - 30/06/2004 00:02
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: FireFox31]
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It was a photoshopped image of a current BBS page. Sorry, I know nothing about CSS.
Oh, and I wanted to say... getting rid of the outer table border doesn't have to involve deleting it. Just turning it black would be fine. Maybe even better, because the "Addons" line above the first table would then have a small amount of black space below it.
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#224962 - 30/06/2004 00:25
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: tfabris]
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Excellent job, Tony. I agree with all of it. I think everyone wants the old "new post" indicator back.
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#224963 - 30/06/2004 00:37
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: Dignan]
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The real question is whether it's easily do-able or not. Some of that stuff might be tricky.
I mean, since this BBS is written in PHP, everything is editable. But one of the reasons we got the new software for it is so that we can get upgrades. Each change Tom makes now means one more thing he has to remember to hack back into place on the next version upgrade of the BBS software. So that's tricky.
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#224964 - 30/06/2004 01:07
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: tfabris]
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Brilliant.
But you forgot to move the "Welcome to our newest member - aNewMember" back to its rightful place where we can easily keep our beady eyes on those pesky newcomers.
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#224965 - 30/06/2004 01:25
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: genixia]
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Good point. I did like that feature of the old BBS.
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#224966 - 30/06/2004 03:08
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: tfabris]
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True, Tony. I think the main tough part about the color of that, at least, is the difficulty Tom is having with things like the [ q ] color. You have to make it look okay with the other stylesheets. I don't remember, was it a different color on the alternate stylesheets for the old board? I never looked at them.
Aside from that, I don't see why that would be a difficult change. It's the "new" part I imagine would be more difficult.
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#224967 - 30/06/2004 03:26
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: Dignan]
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Quote: ...things like the [ q ] color. You have to make it look okay with the other stylesheets.
That's easy to do with CSS. We could just take out the [q] and use [quote] and change the look in the CSS like I did in the CSS I attached above.
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#224968 - 30/06/2004 04:05
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: ricin]
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I know, I was just saying that that is what I thought the delay was with getting that done, just that it was a little thing that needed to be gotten around to. He was implying this would be hard to do.
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#224969 - 30/06/2004 05:18
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: tfabris]
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Tony, you do know in the time you took to make that gif, you could have started to learn the basics of CSS enough to find the offending table surround tag and asked me to kill it... :-P
I did kill it, not realising I blindly pasted it in doing the upgrade. I restored the icons from the old board as well (artifact of the clean install I did). Lastly, found the CSS id for the new tags to change their color to orange from white.
The rest of the things, well, doubtful much more is going to happen. It was pretty much "put the board back to 5.5". I know people got used to seeing it that way for a number of years now, but it wasn't the first time the look has changed. And I know why you want it to say (8 new). An easier way your little VB app could work is just to parse the HTML for "newposts.gif" or "nonewposts.gif". Or, enjoy RSS feeds once that gets put in.
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#224970 - 30/06/2004 05:35
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: drakino]
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Thanks, Tom. It looks real good.
*edit*
I just want to reformat my request.
Currently, threads with new posts are indicated by a different color folder, different background color, number of new posts in orange, and all the text in bold. Isn't this overkill? I've already gotten used to the different background, and I like it, but I propose getting rid of the left-most column entirely (those white folders hurt my eyes), and leaving the text without bold.
Edited by DiGNAN17 (30/06/2004 05:41)
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#224971 - 30/06/2004 15:53
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: drakino]
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The changes you made to the main page look great. It's enough to keep me happy. Just changing out those awful lightbulb icons did a world of good. I'll come up with a way to parse for the proper tag to indicate new posts and such.
Of course, without a way to log into the BBS with an actual URL (the thing with all the parameters I mentioned in the other thread), I'm not sure my checker program is going to be useful at all. Any ideas on how I can do that?
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#224972 - 30/06/2004 17:07
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: tfabris]
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Quote: Any ideas on how I can do that?
You'll have to make it POST. The code is most likely looking for POST variables only, so your request with a GET is being ignored.
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#224973 - 30/06/2004 18:14
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: drakino]
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Thanks for taking off that left column with the folders. The forum views are so much better now. They look great!
I don't think I have any other changes I'd make. Fantastic job, Tom.
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#224974 - 30/06/2004 19:31
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: Dignan]
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Just one more minor complaint here. The layout of that right column is weird on a large monitor. It stretches pretty wide, but doesn't use all the space...
-Mike
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Edited by mcomb (30/06/2004 19:32)
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#224975 - 30/06/2004 19:40
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: mcomb]
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Nice font rendering. What browser is that?
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#224976 - 30/06/2004 20:41
Re: empeg.css contest
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Quote: Nice font rendering. What browser is that?
Safari.
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#224977 - 30/06/2004 20:54
Re: empeg.css contest
[Re: mcomb]
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Hmm. Didn't look that good when I was using it.
Edit: I've been chastized offline for making that comment, seeing as how that image is rife with JPEG artifacts. I defend myself by saying that, somehow, my crappy work monitor blurred out that weird color thing going on. I still think it looks good, looking past the artifacts, though, so bite me.
Edited by wfaulk (30/06/2004 21:04)
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#224978 - 30/06/2004 21:32
Re: empeg.css contest
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Quote: I still think it looks good, looking past the artifacts, though, so bite me.
Since I am something of a browser collector here is a less artifact filled comparison for you. They all look pretty good to me except for firefox.
-Mike

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