#235588 - 29/09/2004 14:40
History in the Making
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Now THIS is what I regard as history. Go, Space Ship One and those people in the team doing the work! Burt Rutan and Paul Allen are far-sighted people who will go down in the history books! 
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#235589 - 29/09/2004 14:48
Re: History in the Making
[Re: schofiel]
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Registered: 21/08/1999
Posts: 381
Loc: Northern Ireland
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I was watching the live webcast earlier... there was a hairy moment when it rolled a few times just before the rocket engine cut out, but then it was at 328,000 feet, and the cam on the wing was sending back pics of Earth bouncing about below!
Even on a crappy 56k wmv feed, it was an amazing sight (except they kept cutting to a lot of people talking about M&Ms and 7-Up - show me the spaceship, dammit  )
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#235590 - 29/09/2004 15:07
Re: History in the Making
[Re: Geoff]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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Yeah I was watching on NasaTV ... When that thing started rolling I was like "Oh god." and then the engines cut off. I thought the guy was done for. Did you hear them say later that they told him to abort and kill the engines but he left them on a few seconds longer to make the minimum altitude? Pretty amazing ...
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#235591 - 29/09/2004 16:42
Re: History in the Making
[Re: mschrag]
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Registered: 21/08/1999
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Loc: Northern Ireland
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I didn't hear them say that, but I did hold my breath for a few seconds and have flashbacks to the two shuttle disasters. Then I thought he was going to keep going higher and not come back down... ...I can be a bit of a pessimist at times! 
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#235592 - 29/09/2004 17:14
Re: History in the Making
[Re: schofiel]
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old hand
Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
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I was watching on the webcast too (linked from a NASA page). I was watching in 56k but switched to the 150k version and it held out perfectly (in the UK). It was typical for Branson to get a Virgin logo plastered right in the middle of the camera's view!
Gareth
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#235594 - 30/09/2004 01:10
Re: History in the Making
[Re: webroach]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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I was so proud of a small segment of humanity that I wanted to cry.
The Olympics made me feel that way this year (first time I've watched them since Barcelona). I try to ignore any corruption that may be behind it and embrace the message it promotes. But that's a tad off topic...
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#235595 - 30/09/2004 01:31
Re: History in the Making
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Actually, wait, I take that back. "galvanise the commercial spaceflight business." Lordy, anything touched by "commercial" gets violiently destroyed. The last place I want to see "commercial" get its gruby capitalist hands are the deep sea (probably too late) and space.
I can see it now "Orbital spa treatment!!" and "Weightless weightloss!!"
But good god, this mess includes GoldenPalace.com?! You thought spam for online casinos was bad, wait till your inbox floods with "She's Eas.y T0 Pleas3 at ZERO G's!!! quxwpr"
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#235596 - 30/09/2004 02:57
Re: History in the Making
[Re: FireFox31]
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old hand
Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
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I don't care about any of that. I care about a man in a privately made craft taking off as a pilot and landing an astronaut. Without NASA, without Bush or Kerrey or Nader, without the government...
...and sadly, without much media attention.
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#235597 - 30/09/2004 03:57
Re: History in the Making
[Re: webroach]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Without NASA, without Bush or Kerrey
There was a senator from the midwest, Nebraska maybe, with that name. But I'll bet you mean Kerry.
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#235598 - 30/09/2004 04:22
Re: History in the Making
[Re: Daria]
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
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It was a silent "e". 
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#235599 - 04/10/2004 12:22
Re: History in the Making
[Re: webroach]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Going for the X Prize right now! Good luck!
Edit: CNN blog in case you cannot get a streaming feed (like me).
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#235600 - 04/10/2004 12:41
Re: History in the Making
[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Damnit, I should be able to get a streaming feed, but when I press the "live" link on CNN, it gives me bullshit about signing up for a special "RealOne" service for fifteen bucks. I HATE Real and everything they stand for.
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#235601 - 04/10/2004 12:42
Re: History in the Making
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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Same here. That is why I am using the blog. No video, but at least it is being updated periodically.
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#235602 - 04/10/2004 12:43
Re: History in the Making
[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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I tried the TV, can't find anyone showing it, not even CNN.
Hm, I didn't try the major networks (NBC etc), though. I'll try those.
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#235603 - 04/10/2004 12:48
Re: History in the Making
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Okay, our local UPN affiliate is carrying it (Channel 31 in the Sacramento area).
But I gotta leave for work soon. Sigh.
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#235604 - 04/10/2004 13:00
Re: History in the Making
[Re: pgrzelak]
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old hand
Registered: 14/04/2002
Posts: 1172
Loc: Hants, UK
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Prolly too late now, but www.xprize.org and www.nasa.gov have streaming feeds, getting sustained 300kbps here in the UK. Gareth
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#235605 - 04/10/2004 13:12
Re: History in the Making
[Re: g_attrill]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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Well, the CNN blog appeared to stop updating after 10.15am. But the CNN home page is now reporting that a successful flight was made and that the prize has been won.
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#235606 - 04/10/2004 14:10
Re: History in the Making
[Re: genixia]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Yeah, it seemed to be a smooth and textbook flight, with a perfect landing. The timing of my finding the TV station was good, I got to see it from the moment they lit the rockets to the moment it touched the runway. Then it was time to head for work.
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#235607 - 04/10/2004 14:11
Re: History in the Making
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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I caught a chunk of it on a (very choppy) web feed from ansari.org. Very cool!
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#235608 - 04/10/2004 14:46
Re: History in the Making
[Re: pgrzelak]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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I caught a chunk of it on a (very choppy) web feed from ansari.org. Very cool!
Are there any torrents (or whatever) of the original stream? I didn't get a chance to catch it here at work, but I'd still like to see it.
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#235609 - 04/10/2004 14:48
Re: History in the Making
[Re: Roger]
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Registered: 06/03/2003
Posts: 269
Loc: Wellingborough, UK
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xprize.org has streamed recordings for WMP (yuk).
Edit: they are still doing a webcast at the moment. The eariler flight is up there, though. I guess they will put todays up at some point.
Edited by mdavey (04/10/2004 14:51)
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#235610 - 04/10/2004 14:51
Re: History in the Making
[Re: mdavey]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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xprize.org has streamed recordings for WMP (yuk).
Better than Real.
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#235611 - 04/10/2004 17:46
Re: History in the Making
[Re: pgrzelak]
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Registered: 23/12/2002
Posts: 652
Loc: Winston Salem, NC
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Looks like Google is celebrating, as well.
EDIT: Image added.
Edited by Cybjorg (04/10/2004 19:24)
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#235612 - 04/10/2004 21:10
Re: History in the Making
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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I HATE Real and everything they stand for.
A little "amen" to Tony. Real will not be appearing in the next deployment of software in my workplace and their site will be banned in the hosts file, no matter how much they need it. Friggin legal spyware.
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#235613 - 04/10/2004 21:14
Re: History in the Making
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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To their credit, they removed most of the spyware-like misfeatures in their recent version. There was enough of a backlash against their prior versions that they made a bunch of changes for the better.
But then I go to watch Spaceship One on CNN.com and I can't because I hit multiple popups (blocked by my browser) and ads for their premium service that I can't seem to get past. Sigh.
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#235614 - 04/10/2004 21:42
Re: History in the Making
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 02/04/2002
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Anybody else catch the "Black Sky" special on Discovery last night? It was so good, I had to stay up and watch it again at like 1am.
Anyways, it’s a huge 2 hour long documentary on SpaceShipOne the Burt Rutan. Part 1 is what I saw, which has tons of footage of the past 3 years, maybe 5 test flights, rocket motor tests, crash landings, and sticky situations at about 150,000 feet. I'd highly recommend everybody to check what time it’s going to replay and tivo it. Also on Oct 7th at 10pm EST part 2 will be out, with both x-prize flights.
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#235615 - 04/10/2004 22:11
Re: History in the Making
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
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So you dislike Real because CNN.com is using Real's premium services to host their content...
Sounds like a reason to change news sources. Sure, Real has had issues, but to blame them for CNN's decisions also seems wrong.
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#235616 - 04/10/2004 22:42
Re: History in the Making
[Re: drakino]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Sounds like a reason to change news sources.
Agreed. I tried several news sites but CNN was the only one I could see that was offering a live feed.
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#235617 - 04/10/2004 23:29
Re: History in the Making
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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Agreed. I tried several news sites but CNN was the only one I could see that was offering a live feed.
And the only reason CNN was offering a live feed was because they charge for their video content... Your real frustration here is that CNN wanted you to pay, not that real is evil. Real may be evil, but I'm inclined to say that they've gotten much less evil the past few years. If you havn't read it, their CEO's interview on slashdot is an interesting read.
Matthew
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#235618 - 05/10/2004 00:19
Re: History in the Making
[Re: matthew_k]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Real may or may not be evil, but their technology sucks. That's the reason I hate them. The annoying software is just icing on the cake. I can't ever seem to get anything that looks much better than either a 3spf slideshow or something so compressed it looks more like a lost piece of Mondrian art than ... buffering ... buffering ... video.
I have none of these problems with WMP or QT.
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#235619 - 05/10/2004 02:42
Re: History in the Making
[Re: matthew_k]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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Actually, I'm sort of tired of proprietary codecs generally.
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#235620 - 05/10/2004 03:03
Re: History in the Making
[Re: Daria]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Again, especially the ones that suck.
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#235621 - 11/10/2004 11:42
Re: History in the Making
[Re: oliver]
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Registered: 06/03/2003
Posts: 269
Loc: Wellingborough, UK
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Anybody else catch the "Black Sky" special on Discovery last night? It was so good, I had to stay up and watch it again at like 1am.
Tonight at 9pm WEST on Discovery Channel (UK).
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#235622 - 11/10/2004 12:00
Re: History in the Making
[Re: mdavey]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/09/2000
Posts: 2303
Loc: Richmond, VA
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I saw this a couple days ago ... pretty cool. Just watching the spin from the first flight made me want to throw up. I can't imagine actually being inside the thing.
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