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#246339 - 24/02/2005 00:49 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: BAKup]
tman
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Hmm. Apparently the service manual that was leaked contains details on how to perform the upgrade and specifically states that Apple will provide an upgrade kit for service techs.

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#246340 - 24/02/2005 00:50 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: BAKup]
robricc
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From the dealer service guide linked by Rob V. in this thread:


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#246341 - 24/02/2005 02:53 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: tman]
BAKup
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Thanks for pointing that out, I just snagged a copy myself, and read over it...It seems the salesperson was blowing smoke up my...

Ok, if my local Apple store isn't being helpful, should I go straight to 800-My-Apple and find out what it'll take, or does anyone know of a good Apple dealer in Houston.
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#246342 - 24/02/2005 04:55 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: BAKup]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
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Loc: Portland, OR
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Thanks for pointing that out, I just snagged a copy myself, and read over it...It seems the salesperson was blowing smoke up my...

Ok, if my local Apple store isn't being helpful, should I go straight to 800-My-Apple and find out what it'll take, or does anyone know of a good Apple dealer in Houston.

Go back to your Apple store, and talk to a manager. Tell the manager what the sales person told you (and who the sales person is, if you can remember). Then tell the manager that you did a little research, and found this in the service manual, and that you're extremely disappointed that you feel the employee was blowing smoke up your wazoo to get you to buy a new machine. Keep talking long enough, with threats to escalate to Apple HQ (or wherever), and you might be able to get the upgrade/installation for less than normal. Let the manager try to fix the problem before jumping ship.

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#246343 - 24/02/2005 09:27 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: BAKup]
David
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Registered: 05/05/2000
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Well, this is not fun, I stopped by the local Apple store asking to get the bluetooth and airport installed since I didn't get those when I bought it. They told me that they have no way to install Wireless or Bluetooth after the fact. The salesperson even told me the only way to get it that way was to ebay the old one and buy one with it already installed.


While this is completely wrong, it is understandable that if he had only received basic retail training on the product why he thought this.

While an Airport card can be purchased separately, on Apple's other machines, the Bluetooth adapter is a BTO option and isn't usually available separately, even to authorised dealers to do upgrades. It seems that Apple have made an exception in the case of the mini as they are probably aware that many people will buy one off-the-shelf and then realise they want the upgrade.

If he didn't know about this upgrade kit, then he might have assumed that if you wanted internal Bluetooth, you'd need to buy a new machine.

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#246344 - 24/02/2005 12:19 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: canuckInOR]
BAKup
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Let me add this in, forgot to say it at the time, but when I asked him, he went to the back, came back a minute or so later, and that's when he told me the only way to get bluetooth and airport in a Mac Mini was to buy one with it already installed.

I did tell the salesperson that I wanted both the airport and the bluetooth, so I don't think it was any confusion on his part thinking I only wanted one, and the upgrade only has both.

I think I'm going to take a long lunch today and stop by the store and get some real answers.
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#246345 - 24/02/2005 13:32 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: BAKup]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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It is possible that Apple changed their mind about offering an upgrade kit after the service manual was written.

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#246346 - 24/02/2005 13:59 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: tman]
andy
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It is possible that Apple changed their mind about offering an upgrade kit after the service manual was written.


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#246347 - 24/02/2005 14:35 Re: Mac Mini, It's HERE !!! [Re: tman]
BAKup
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Ok, I just got of the phone with another dealer, they had to call me back, but before they did, he did say they can do it, but the don't have the part yet. He then called me back about 20 minutes later and said that Apple isn't going to be shipping them out until Early March, but he will get back in touch with me when he gets a firm date.

So, it is possible, but the upgrade kit isn't out yet.
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#246348 - 26/02/2005 07:53 Re: Mac Mini [Re: rob]
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Okay could someone tell Mr thicky exactly what kind of ram i want to be buying to upgrade mine when it arrives To me memory is the green strips you shove inside the machine.
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#246349 - 26/02/2005 10:09 Re: Mac Mini [Re: thinfourth2]
andy
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#246350 - 26/02/2005 16:21 Re: Mac Mini [Re: andy]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
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To put it plain and simple: PC2700 (DDR 333) [or better] 184-pin DIMM. This is all Apple specifies - they mention nothing about unbuffered nor CAS timings in their own documentation.

The RAM can be bought from any number of sources and can usually be found for quite a bit less than Crucial's online prices.

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#246351 - 26/02/2005 23:43 Re: Mac Mini [Re: hybrid8]
andy
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Fair enough. Years ago I used to keep on top of the whole "what memory goes with what processor" thing. I got bored at some point and now rely on Crucial to provide me with the correct memory for a particular system.

I know I probably pay a premium, but I trade that off with the fact that I could say "you dummies, you sent me memory that doesn't work this this system" if things didn't work out.
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#246352 - 27/02/2005 13:00 Re: Mac Mini [Re: andy]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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I know I probably pay a premium, but I trade that off with the fact that I could say "you dummies, you sent me memory that doesn't work this this system" if things didn't work out.

Same here. It's guaranteed to work and if it doesn't then I get to bitch at them.

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