#251607 - 14/03/2005 09:45
Instant eclectic music collection
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South By South-West, or SXSW -- which I hadn't heard of before Saturday -- is a music festival happening this week in Austin, Texas. It's a pretty big music festival: apparently over 1,300 bands are playing this year. And over 750 of those bands have contributed MP3s to an "SXSW Artists Showcase". And SXSW have put up a torrent of the whole gosh-darned enchilada... Peter
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#251608 - 14/03/2005 10:05
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
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Woo hoo! Downloading now.... (as soon as I finish installing bittorrent on my server).
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#251609 - 14/03/2005 11:35
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#251610 - 14/03/2005 14:05
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
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Thanks much!
However currently -> 23 day remaining.
Hopefully it will speed up
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#251611 - 14/03/2005 14:15
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: Redrum]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
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However currently -> 23 day remaining.
Hopefully it will speed up
If you've got a firewall, BitTorrent is sped up hugely if you turn on port forwarding to your actual PC. This page goes into very considerable detail, but in general you just need to forward ports 6881..6889, TCP, from your firewall to your PC.
Peter
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#251612 - 14/03/2005 14:22
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
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Registered: 27/06/1999
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"But I don't have an iPod! How can I listen to those mp3s without an iPod???"
I guess international trade laws prohibit mentioning MP3 without mentioning iPod nowadays.
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#251613 - 14/03/2005 14:26
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
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Registered: 10/06/1999
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Also, to make sure you get the best speed, limit the upload speed to slower than your upstream bandwidth. If you don't then you upstream bandwidth will get filled, which doesn't leave any room for the TCP ACK packets, which kills your download speed.
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#251614 - 14/03/2005 14:30
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: peter]
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Thanks again. I’ll read through the tuning doc to see if I can find anything. I don’t have a firewall on the PC I’m downloading from. I was able to download the "updated" songs in about 15 minutes however the full version is taking forever. Hopefully more people will start downloading and that will help.
The full version looks like it is zipped into two files. I kind of wish it wasn’t because if this fails I'll probably loose the entire zip and just not a few songs, oh well beggars….
Is there any other cool downloads like this that use Bit Torrent? Never head of Bit Torrent before.
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#251615 - 14/03/2005 14:41
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: Redrum]
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Registered: 13/07/2000
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The full version looks like it is zipped into two files. I kind of wish it wasn’t because if this fails I'll probably loose the entire zip and just not a few songs, oh well beggars….
I think it doesn't actually work like that -- until you've got the whole lot, none of your downloaded files are valid. I'd love to know exactly how it works, but it seems to fill the files in the order it receives the blocks, whether or not that's the right order. This surely involves it in reshuffling the blocks when the right ones do arrive, but maybe it does that on-the-fly too. It must be a bit like those jigsaw screensavers.
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Is there any other cool downloads like this that use Bit Torrent? Never head of Bit Torrent before.
It's very popular anytime you've got a file to offer for download that's so big it'd wipe out your web server if you just handed it out. It gets used for Linux ISOs and that sort of thing.
Peter
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#251616 - 14/03/2005 14:44
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: Redrum]
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Registered: 10/06/1999
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Mine is downloading at over 200KB/s, ETA 3.5 hours.
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#251617 - 14/03/2005 14:47
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: peter]
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...in general you just need to forward ports 6881..6889, TCP, from your firewall to your PC.
Through the magic(?) of UPnP, Azureus was able to forward port 6881 automatically, but I'm still looking at a 7 day download.
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#251618 - 14/03/2005 14:55
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: peter]
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carpal tunnel
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I think it doesn't actually work like that -- until you've got the whole lot, none of your downloaded files are valid. I'd love to know exactly how it works, but it seems to fill the files in the order it receives the blocks, whether or not that's the right order. This surely involves it in reshuffling the blocks when the right ones do arrive, but maybe it does that on-the-fly too. It must be a bit like those jigsaw screensavers.
I haven't used the official BT client for a while, so I don't know how it works now. With Azureus, the best BT client I have found, you can open files before the whole torrent is downloaded (including previewing parts of video clips, given a codec that can cope with that). You can even tell it not to download some files in the torrent, so in this case you could tell it only to download one of the two zip files.
http://azureus.sourceforge.net/
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#251619 - 14/03/2005 14:58
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[Re: andy]
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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I'm a big fan of ABC. Well, I was before I got scared of downloading. I don't have many legitimate torrents that I usually get 
They mentioned this on the Screen Savers, too. Sounds like a cool idea, but I'm sure most of it will be stuff I won't want to listen to.
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#251620 - 14/03/2005 15:13
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[Re: peter]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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The full version looks like it is zipped into two files. I kind of wish it wasn’t because if this fails I'll probably loose the entire zip and just not a few songs, oh well beggars….
I think it doesn't actually work like that -- until you've got the whole lot, none of your downloaded files are valid. I'd love to know exactly how it works, but it seems to fill the files in the order it receives the blocks, whether or not that's the right order. This surely involves it in reshuffling the blocks when the right ones do arrive, but maybe it does that on-the-fly too. It must be a bit like those jigsaw screensavers.
No, you can definitely work with files within a torrent before the entire torrent is completed.
Now, it's possible that whatever Torrent client you're using doesn't actually do that, and only collects the blocks it receives into a big blob and then parts it out when it's done, but that's certainly not how it has to work.
Azureus seems to allocate files when the download starts and put the blocks in the right place when it receives them. I think there's an option to not preallocate, but that probably increases fragmentation significantly. Again, your client may do it differently.
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#251621 - 14/03/2005 15:20
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: andy]
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Good tip on Azureus.
It looks much better than qtorrent, which I'm currently using -- gotta wait for it to finish in a few hours before switching, though, or I'll likely lose the 231MB already downloaded.
I also tried the official bittorrent s/w, but the GUI was all but non-existent, and didn't seem to ever update onscreen. Mind you, the download rate (measured with other tools) was noticeably quicker than qtorrent is..
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#251622 - 14/03/2005 15:42
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[Re: andy]
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I was downloading at 1.1MB/s finished a couple hours ago.
Gotta love the 20Meg fiber at the office.
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#251623 - 14/03/2005 15:45
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: mlord]
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I also tried the official bittorrent s/w, but the GUI was all but non-existent, and didn't seem to ever update onscreen. Mind you, the download rate (measured with other tools) was noticeably quicker than qtorrent is..
I usually use btheadlesscurses.py from the official distribution. It's very good and low-CPU at keeping itself updated, but it doesn't have the partial-downloads-usable feature of Bitt's client.
Peter
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#251624 - 14/03/2005 16:11
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[Re: Roger]
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Through the magic(?) of UPnP
Through the magic of uPnP on my router, my ReplayTV crashes. Neither the router company nor DNNA seemed interested in fixing it though, so my router has to have uPnP disabled at all times so I can record TV.
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#251625 - 14/03/2005 16:26
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[Re: peter]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Azureus does have a problem with hogging resources, especially when you have a good number of torrents going. I mostly use it on Windows, but I imagine renicing it under Unix would help with that. (Changing the process priority under Windows helps, but only a little.)
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#251626 - 14/03/2005 17:09
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[Re: mlord]
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I stop torrents all the time before they are finished downloading (Anime) and when I restart Azureus it just checks the file to see what I have and resumes the download.
I have even changed from ABC and G3Torrent to Azureus and it just worked. I've tried many clients Azureus just seems to be the best.
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#251627 - 14/03/2005 17:28
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[Re: peter]
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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Cool. This could be interesting. Anybody listened to any of it yet?
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#251628 - 14/03/2005 18:01
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[Re: tman]
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I'm downloading @ over 470 kB/s wooooweeee!
Gotta love that Bittornado....and the fact that there are 70 seeds right now helps as well...
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#251629 - 14/03/2005 19:33
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I'm downloading @ over 470 kB/s wooooweeee!
Gotta love that Bittornado....and the fact that there are 70 seeds right now helps as well...
I like Bittornado better than Azareus as well. Seems more stable to me.
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#251630 - 14/03/2005 20:00
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Ugh. I used Bittornado until ABC came along. It was just such a bad way to manage the downloads, and restarting torrents was a PITA. I just felt ABC was a better manager, with more options, and gave a feeling of more control over (with more information on) your torrents.
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#251631 - 14/03/2005 20:19
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Just finished extracting one archive and listened to a few songs...nice collection however most songs are only encoded at 128...not "high quality" enough for me....
Thank you anyway.
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#251632 - 14/03/2005 20:51
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Registered: 20/05/2001
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Ugh. I used Bittornado until ABC came along. It was just such a bad way to manage the downloads, and restarting torrents was a PITA. I just felt ABC was a better manager, with more options, and gave a feeling of more control over (with more information on) your torrents.
Ah, haven't tried that ABC manager. Maybe I should.
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#251633 - 14/03/2005 21:00
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I haven't tried that Azureus, so that might be worth a try, too. The main reason I liked ABC so much was that I could have the program maximized on my second monitor, with dozens of downloads queued up, and I could control at any time which ones I wanted to be downloading. It made everything very easy after dealing with the multiple Bitornado windows.
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#251634 - 14/03/2005 21:03
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You can definitely do that with Azureus. It's got the best multiple-torrent manager I've seen. It's hard on the resources, though.
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#251635 - 14/03/2005 21:04
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[Re: Dignan]
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Ugh. I used Bittornado until ABC came along.
Mmm.. ABC claims to be built from a fork in Bittornado or something, so it really should be better than the latter. But, alas, the Linux version doesn't sound anywhere near stable yet, and there's no .deb package out yet.
So now I'm trying Bittornado, and so far it is the best one on my system. The Java based Azureus (discussed earlier in this thread) looks the slickest, but I don't have java set up on my torrent box.
Cheers
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#251636 - 15/03/2005 04:16
Re: Instant eclectic music collection
[Re: ineedcolor]
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Registered: 13/02/2002
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Just finished extracting one archive and listened to a few songs...nice collection however most songs are only encoded at 128...not "high quality" enough for me....
Thank you anyway.
Ah, think of it as a sampler CD -- the type you'd listen to so you can find new music to go out and buy.
For those who haven't heard of this festival before, there are a few of these large festivals sprinkled about the NA continent -- NXNE, and NXNW are the two that I'm most familiar with. Dunno if they torrent anything, though.
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