#252267 - 12/04/2005 15:45
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: tman]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
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Loc: East Coast, USA
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tman, thanks for noticing that. No, that is not normal and is probably a side effect of my molder "packing out the parts" (adding more plastic to decrease shrinkage and reduce "sink" (dimples caused from over-shrinkage of thick wall sections)). I let them know about it, but they likely already know because they're good about that. The MKII knob, however, does have an addition that may not work, but I'll have to test that tonight.
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#252268 - 12/04/2005 15:45
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: mrfixit]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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You've misspelled "Oates".
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#252269 - 12/04/2005 15:49
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: mrfixit]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Nice lighting kit install. Hey, those buttons are pretty cool. Did you put a blue filter behind the knob as well because it really shines!
After seeing the red parts, I think the blue parts (and other colors) will thankfully be less translucent than the clear parts. But, if you want them really bright, maybe clear + filters is the way to go. Nice work.
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#252271 - 13/04/2005 23:52
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: mrfixit]
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enthusiast
Registered: 11/06/2003
Posts: 384
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mrfixit and Mach:
Nice buttons! You're really making me want to try some stuff out myself.
--Nathan
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#252272 - 16/04/2005 20:22
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Here are photos of the (unexpected) second batch of red samples I received today. The texture is better, the light diffusion is smoother, the bottom button is fixed, and the knob height was extended 1mm (against my previous decision).
The red buttons look good with brightness at max, though their color matches much better than the photo shows. Since it was a beautiful day out, I got a very accurate natural-light photo.
Now to just wait a week or two for production, then it's open season on lit buttons. Let's keep the curse at bay for just a little longer!!
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#252273 - 16/04/2005 22:17
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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How many colors are you going to do?
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#252274 - 17/04/2005 00:00
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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7 colors:
Red - translucent, matching Filener flat red lens
Blue - translucent, matching original factory blue lens
Smoke - translucent, true gray unlike smoked VFD gray
Amber - translucent, matching Filener raised amber lens
Green - translucent, matching Filener flat green lens
Clear - translucent, shows your LED color or your custom button modification
Black - NOT translucent, matching fascia (hopefully)
I will experiment with modifications and may offer additional customized colors. First attempt will be translucent milky white paint and second will be end-glow fiber flourescent colors. No limit to customization potential.
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#252275 - 21/05/2005 00:01
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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For my 1100th post, and 11 months to the day since this project was started, I'm pleased to announce that the production run of lit buttons is complete and will be in my hands, at the latest, by June 1st.
You may want to get your Eutronix lighting kit and have it installed to avoid any rush once the buttons go on sale. Or, you could wait for the buttons to be officially on sale to be sure the curse is broken before investing in lights. Either way, I'll announce the release in a new thread on the BBS.
Oh, and did any of the button beta tester plastics modders get a chance to hack up those saddly incomplete sets I mailed out? Post some pics if you'd like. For all your hacking enjoyment, the full sets will be out soon enough.
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#252276 - 21/05/2005 02:40
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/01/2002
Posts: 2009
Loc: Brisbane, Australia
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Awesome.
I know everyone here is very grateful for what you've done after the troubles the other guys had trying to get illuminated buttons. I really can't wait.
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#252277 - 21/05/2005 09:51
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: Shonky]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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It ain't over 'till the fat plastic blinks..
I'm not getting any hopes up until somebody actually has working good buttons installed in a player.
Cheers
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#252278 - 27/05/2005 03:34
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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#252279 - 27/05/2005 07:27
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
Posts: 2091
Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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You tease!!!!! 
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MkIIa, blue lit buttons, memory upgrade, 1Tb in Subaru Forester STi
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#252280 - 27/05/2005 13:38
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/01/2002
Posts: 3937
Loc: Providence, RI
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I guess if I get a unit modded I can at the same time have the unhappy unit which may have a badly soldered pin on the IDE header and whose display is out despite no obvious nipple damage repaired at the same time.
Trying to use an empeg with a dead remote battery and no display is hard. Using the radio is harder. When "Radio Disney" came on, well, I knew I was at the low end of the AM dial, but I never did manage to switch to FM and tune.
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#252281 - 27/05/2005 14:08
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: Daria]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Speaking of "dead" remote batteries..
I've been having some trouble recently with remotes failing to work, or working only intermittently, even with new batteries.
Turns out the spring contact for the bottom side of the battery is losing it's "spring" in my remotes.. so I've stuffed a small wad of paper under that spring contact and then reinserted the battery. Seems to fix it in all three remotes here that had the problem.
Cheers
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#252282 - 27/05/2005 14:21
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Turns out the spring contact for the bottom side of the battery is losing it's "spring" in my remotes.. so I've stuffed a small wad of paper under that spring contact and then reinserted the battery. Seems to fix it in all three remotes here that had the problem.
Ah cool. I remember ages ago you posted about repairing another remote by drilling a hole in the back and bending the contact. The paper method sounds a lot easier.
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#252283 - 27/05/2005 15:40
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: frog51]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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I'm not the tease, I'm *being* teased; by those boxes which arrived at my house yesterday. Here I am stuck at work unable to open them and see what's inside.
Well, except for the box labeled "Green" which I tore into, dug through, and retrieved the objects which I've waited for almost a year and a half now (noted in my ever-changing signature). After a little more legwork, we'll all get to see what's in those boxes!
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#252284 - 27/05/2005 16:18
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: tman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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Yeah, the remote that I drilled into was the only one here still working perfectly before the round of paper wadding to the others!
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#252285 - 28/05/2005 00:00
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[Re: FireFox31]
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journeyman
Registered: 02/07/2004
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A year and a half, that's all? Let's see what it takes for metal/aluminum/alloy/bronze/whatever buttons to see the daylight 
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#252286 - 28/05/2005 01:11
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[Re: peakmop]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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No no no, I was on the project only 11 months. The "year and a half" roughly includes the previous effort, which is when buttons first caught my attention. My research shows buttons haven't been available for about 2.5 years now.
The metal buttons should be simple. I would have had them months ago if I actually worked on the project. I'm stuck on one easy step for one stupid reason. Once the lit button system is stable, I'll crank out those aluminum buttons in no time. Now... if only the color on these buttons would photograph accurately....
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#252287 - 28/05/2005 01:16
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[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14493
Loc: Canada
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The colour is easy to photograph, requiring the same technique as for anything else where colour matters. First, shoot a "custom white balance" from a blank sheet of paper in exactly the same position/lighting as the empeg will be placed. Then set the camera to use the custom white balance, and replace the blank sheet with the empeg + lit buttons.
Works for me tout les temps.
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#252288 - 30/05/2005 16:51
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[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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I just ordered my lighting kit and have arranged for install of that and the memory board.
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#252289 - 02/06/2005 17:09
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[Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
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member
Registered: 24/05/2000
Posts: 108
Loc: UK
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So, how do I actually order a set of blue buttons?
Bagpuss.
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#252290 - 02/06/2005 17:34
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[Re: Bagpuss]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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So, how do I actually order a set of blue buttons?
Don't think you can yet. Brad was refering to the LED lighting kit which you need to get from Eutronix. Coloured buttons aren't very useful without it 
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#252291 - 04/06/2005 01:28
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: tman]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Hm, actually the colored buttons look kind of cool when unlit. My favorite is amber buttons with the Filener raised orange lens.
You will soon be able to order buttons from my website. I'm still finishing it now, slaving endlessly to get good photographs of these buttons. The lighting in my entire house is too yellow and too dark, so I'm trying everything I can to take photos that actually represent these parts.
I'm really sorry for the delay. Hopefully I can be finished this weekend, test the ordering system and database early in the week, than be up and running by the end of the week. Any more delay is just silly. Keep an eye out for the announcement.
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#252292 - 04/06/2005 09:45
Re: Buttons - FREE pre-production samples, and photos
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
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Hm, actually the colored buttons look kind of cool when unlit. My favorite is amber buttons with the Filener raised orange lens.
Ah. Not got any buttons at all so just going from the photos which make them just look black.
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The lighting in my entire house is too yellow and too dark, so I'm trying everything I can to take photos that actually represent these parts.
Take the pictures outside during the day?
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#252293 - 07/06/2005 05:15
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[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
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The lighting in my entire house is too yellow and too dark
Sounds like you need to switch to GE's Reveal bulbs. What a fantastic difference they make in lighting, over regular bulbs. I made the switch about a year ago, after feeling really depressed. I bought enough bulbs to do one room as a trial run, and two days later, I got so upset over the craptastic lights in the rest of the apartment (I literally couldn't stand to be in the place, anymore) that I went out to the store at 1am, and bought the bulbs to finish the switch. I took them all with me when I moved, too.
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#252294 - 08/06/2005 02:26
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[Re: canuckInOR]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Woah! I honestly think these lights have a similar effect on my after-work moods. Though my trusty GE Watt-Miser 65 watt flood lights have been running for probably over 4 years, there is something very dark about them. I often hold an object directly under the light and still "can't see" it. I'll try the Reveals.
Now, I just need to finish the nagging details of my website and I can get these buttons up for sale. Shipping and tax calculations, customer database for invoice and shipping label printing, buying the domain name?, and the pesky attempt to hide my e-mail address from spammers yet still allow you all to contact me.
This week, I told myself, I'll have it done.
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#252295 - 08/06/2005 10:55
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[Re: FireFox31]
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stranger
Registered: 11/05/2002
Posts: 84
Loc: Cincinnati, OH
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One way I hide my email address is to create a simple Flash button that links to my email address. There's no way a bot can harvest it when embedded in flash...
JeffreyB
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#252296 - 08/06/2005 11:16
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[Re: JeffreyB]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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There's no way a bot can harvest it when embedded in flash...
Not necessarily, spam harvester bots are very advanced these days. You can decompile flash so it's not impossible. Some of the bots have a Java & Javascript engine built into them. Most of them understand the blahNOSPAM at blah dot com stuff as well.
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