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#260564 - 21/07/2005 14:47 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: canuckInOR]
Robotic pooh-bah Registered: 06/04/2005 Posts: 2026 Loc: Seattle transplant	Quote: My keys are already labelled incorrectly. One of the benefits of touch-typing dvorak on a qwerty keyboard. But what's a person to do if they want to learn Dvorak touch typing and have only QWERTY? Hmm- more reading of the internet is in order for me. _________________________ 10101311 (20GB- backup empeg) 10101466 (2x60GB, Eutronix/GreenLights Blue) (Stolen!)
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#260565 - 21/07/2005 14:51 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: Robotic]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Quote: Quote: My keys are already labelled incorrectly. One of the benefits of touch-typing dvorak on a qwerty keyboard. But what's a person to do if they want to learn Dvorak touch typing and have only QWERTY? Hmm- more reading of the internet is in order for me. Whiteout/tipex and a marker pen?
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#260566 - 21/07/2005 16:11 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: tman]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	Enh. You can pop the keycaps off. _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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#260567 - 21/07/2005 16:39 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: wfaulk]
tman carpal tunnel Registered: 24/12/2001 Posts: 5528	Quote: Enh. You can pop the keycaps off. That doesn't actually work as well as you'd think. Some keyboards have odd sculpted keycaps which don't line up properly if you start moving them around.
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#260568 - 21/07/2005 16:47 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: wfaulk]
Robotic pooh-bah Registered: 06/04/2005 Posts: 2026 Loc: Seattle transplant	Quote: Enh. You can pop the keycaps off. Yes, but I'm not quite sure of the extent of changes between the Dvorak and QWERTY- such as the dual symbol keys. It's an interesting discussion, but I will have to educate myself before I feel I can ask adequate questions. As I recall, Randy Cassingham (of This Is True fame) has a page or two devoted to Dvorak... hmm aha- and thanks to google: http://www.dvorak-keyboard.com/ _________________________ 10101311 (20GB- backup empeg) 10101466 (2x60GB, Eutronix/GreenLights Blue) (Stolen!)
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#260569 - 23/07/2005 00:25 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: Robotic]
canuckInOR carpal tunnel Registered: 13/02/2002 Posts: 3212 Loc: Portland, OR	Quote: Quote: Enh. You can pop the keycaps off. Yes, but I'm not quite sure of the extent of changes between the Dvorak and QWERTY- such as the dual symbol keys. Well, aside from the 'a' and 'm' keys, and the numbers, everything else changes place. Dual symbol keys keep the same symbols, since all you're doing is adding a shift-key. I learned at home by finding an old non-sculpted keyboard, and switching the keycaps around. That worked well until my parents came to visit, and my dad sat down at the keyboard. I've rarely seen him look so confused. At work, I just kept a small jpg/gif in view on the screen as a reminder.
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#260570 - 29/07/2005 17:18 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: Cybjorg]
Dignan carpal tunnel Registered: 08/03/2000 Posts: 12341 Loc: Sterling, VA	I assume that many people here read Engadget, but in case there are those who don't, there's this, which would threaten the creation of the Optimus. Then there's this completely uninspired design. I'm sure the patent owner will end up with something crummy like that, too. So, when it comes time, which of you outside the US will be running the keyboard smuggling business?
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#260571 - 29/07/2005 18:26 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: Dignan]
bonzi pooh-bah Registered: 13/09/1999 Posts: 2401 Loc: Croatia	Hm, I remember seeing a keyboard very similar to this as early as 1990 or '91. Of course, I don't remember the manufacturer, nor is there a chance to locate the actual thing. Pitty, it would be amusing to spoil the patent owner's fun with a piece of previous art. _________________________ Dragi "Bonzi" Raos Q#5196 MkII #080000376, 18GB green MkIIa #040103247, 60GB blue
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#260572 - 29/07/2005 18:35 Re: Sign me up for one of these next-gen keyboards [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk carpal tunnel Registered: 25/12/2000 Posts: 16706 Loc: Raleigh, NC US	I could be wrong, but the way I understand patent law to work, you can't patent an idea for something, only the manner in which it is implemented. Software patents have done a lot to undermine this, but this seems fairly well in the physical world. It'd be like Alexander Graham Bell's patent preventing people from developing 2-way radios. _________________________ Bitt Faulk
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