#266377 - 07/08/2006 03:47
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: matthew_k]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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Perhaps the problem lies more in how you are carrying it.
Oh, I'm certain that was it.
In this case, I happened to have it in the same pocket with my key-wallet. The key-wallet is about the same size and shape as the camera. They fit nicely against each other there in my pocket.
The problem is that the key-wallet bulges in the middle, and the camera's LCD was facing the bulge. I played some motion driving simulator games at GameWorks today, and I'm certain it broke when the game tilted to the right and I slid against the side of the game and the key wallet's central bulge pushed up against the center of the LCD and caused it to flex and crack.
If i'd merely carried it turned round the other way, or had the foresight to put it in the other pocket, I would have had no grief today.
But GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK. COME THE FUCK ON. This shit is supposed to be carried in a pocket. WHY ELSE WOULD THEY MAKE THEM SO FUCKING SMALL? THE WHOLE REASON TO BUY A CAMERA THIS SMALL IS TO CARRY IT IN YOUR POCKET.
If I was gonna put the thing in a pelican case I would have bought a big fucking camera.
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#266378 - 07/08/2006 03:49
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 08/05/2000
Posts: 1429
Loc: San Francisco, CA
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I've heard that Canon changed the design of their SD line post SD400. The SD450, SD600, SD630, & SD550 all are SUPPOSED to have the redesigned, stronger screen design. I can't find any actual documentation on that, but I've read it on dpreview and other forums like it.
I now am using the SD600, and love it. Bought it from Costco in case I ever need/want to return it...
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#266379 - 07/08/2006 10:28
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: jbauer]
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
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I've heard that Canon changed the design of their SD line post SD400. The SD450, SD600, SD630, & SD550 all are SUPPOSED to have the redesigned, stronger screen design.
I wouldn't doubt it. I have the SD630 and if this screen weren't designed to be strong, I would have broken it five times over by now. It's the biggest screen I've ever seen on a digital camera.
Tony - I know you're pissed about having to replace the camera, and sure, these things are meant to be carried in your pocket, but I think it's your choice as to whether you carry something else in your pocket along with it.
I carry my SD630 in a pouch clipped to my belt. It's actually the case that came with my Treo 600, and works pretty well.
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#266380 - 07/08/2006 11:06
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
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I have been using a Pentax Optio S5z for the past few months after my Powershot S400 became unreliable. It's extremely lightweight and takes great shots considering its cost and size. I bought it from buydig.com for $152. The price has gone up since then, but it's still an incredible deal. The only possible downside to the S5z is that it doesn't have a view finder. The screen is absolutely huge though and is protected by plastic. One thing it has that the Panasonics usually lack is the orange AF helper lamp (like the Canons also have). I find that to be pretty important for macros. The battery that comes with the camera is a little weak. It's rated for 150 shots, but even that is too little. I got a higher capacity one off ebay for $11 and it was well worth it. I can point out the seller if you're interested.
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#266381 - 07/08/2006 13:06
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Yeah! Why can't they just use that unbreakable glass? Also, frictionless buttons would be nice.
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#266382 - 08/08/2006 02:23
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 17/12/2000
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Loc: Manteca, California
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SCREENS THAT DON'T FUCKING CRACK WITHIN A YEAR OF OWNERSHIP
My Olympus 3030 zoom has a solid polycarbonate shield over the lcd, but then it's not exactly a pocket camera either.
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#266383 - 08/08/2006 04:16
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: gbeer]
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
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It's funny, the Panasonic's screen felt so very solid to me the entire time I owned it. It felt like it was a very hard plastic cover.
Then, after it broke, I noticed it was very soft and flexible.
Turns out, the "hardness" it seemed to have was only because the plastic cover was actually a flexible cover directly against the VFD glass. So the slightest pressure against the center of that flexible plastic cover, and... SNAP.
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#266384 - 08/08/2006 11:57
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 19/01/2002
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I'm looking for a better chicken.
In this case, I happened to have my egg for breakfast this morning in my back pocket with my chinese throwing stars. The chinese throwing stars are about the same size and shape as the egg. They fit nicely against each other there in my pocket.
The problem is that the chinese throwing stars have sharp edges, and the egg's shell was facing the edges. I got in my car to drive to work today, and I'm certain it broke when my butt tilted to the right and I slid against the side of the seat and the chinese throwing stars' edges pushed up against the center of the egg shell and caused it to flex and crack.
If i'd merely carried it in a proper egg container, or had the foresight to hard boil it, I would have had no grief today.
But GIVE ME A #%@&ING BREAK. COME THE #%@& ON. This &#!% looks like it's made to be carried in a pocket. WHY ELSE WOULD THEY MAKE THEM SO #%@&ING SMALL? THE WHOLE REASON TO BUY AN EGG THIS SMALL IS TO CARRY IT IN YOUR POCKET.
If I was gonna put the thing in an egg crate I would have bought a whole #%@&ing chicken.
Edited per jbjorgen's request -wfaulk
Edited by wfaulk (09/08/2006 16:47)
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#266385 - 08/08/2006 12:15
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: JBjorgen]
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Both your post and Tony's original were hilarious reads! Keep it coming, guys!
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#266386 - 08/08/2006 12:48
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: JBjorgen]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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I don't say this much, but:
LOL
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#266387 - 08/08/2006 18:34
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: JBjorgen]
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Cute parody, thanks.  Doesn't refute my claim that a pocket-sized camera (one that's specifically marketed as being such) should tolerate being carried in a pocket.
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#266388 - 08/08/2006 19:03
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
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Well it can be carried in your pocket - but if it gets pressure from a metal object (keys) then the chances are it will break. I think you were unlucky with the Canon as it just seemed to break for no reason. This one, however...
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#266389 - 09/08/2006 02:01
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: CrackersMcCheese]
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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The keys were inside a leather key-wallet. They weren't a hard metal object, it was the pressure of the lump of leather against the screen that snapped it.
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#266390 - 09/08/2006 06:00
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 24/12/2001
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The keys were inside a leather key-wallet. They weren't a hard metal object, it was the pressure of the lump of leather against the screen that snapped it.
You're complaining that when you press hard against an object made of glass that it breaks???
The cameras with a hard transparent plastic piece over the actual LCD are marginally better but it isn't 100% protection. I know somebody with an Olympus that has that and they still managed to crack the plastic which cracked the LCD underneath.
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#266391 - 09/08/2006 06:07
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tman]
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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You're complaining that when you press hard against an object made of glass that it breaks???
No, I'm complaining that an object designed to be carried in a pocket has only a flimsy piece of flexible plastic to protect its glass.
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#266392 - 09/08/2006 10:10
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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You're complaining that when you press hard against an object made of glass that it breaks???
No, I'm complaining that an object designed to be carried in a pocket has only a flimsy piece of flexible plastic to protect its glass.
Don't carry it with anything else in your pocket? If it was a keyring camera then yes, I'd expect it to survive in there with your keys & random junk but not otherwise.
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#266393 - 09/08/2006 12:34
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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No, I'm complaining that an object designed to be carried in a pocket has only a flimsy piece of flexible plastic to protect its glass.
Yeah. They should be using transparent aluminum. Duh.
Seriously, Tony, what could they possibly do? Put bulletproof glass over it? Then it wouldn't be pocket-sized anymore, since bulletproof glass is like 4" thick. Anything else non-flexible is going to be opaque. If you feel the need to carry it in your pocket with hard things pressing up against it, get a hard case for it.
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#266394 - 09/08/2006 12:41
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: wfaulk]
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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transparent aluminum
Holy shit
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#266395 - 09/08/2006 14:05
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: wfaulk]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
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The method of polishing has a substantial effect on the armor's impact resistance.
Beneficial or not?
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#266396 - 09/08/2006 14:06
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: RobotCaleb]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
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Lieutenant La Monica said experimenting with the polishing process has proven beneficial.
"We found that by polishing it a certain way, we increased the strength of the material by two-fold," he said.
http://www.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123012131
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#266397 - 09/08/2006 19:49
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Well, I can successfully dismantle and reassemble the camera, broken LCD and all, and it's a much easier job than the Canon was. After putting it back together, the camera still turns on, unlike the Canon. So I've ordered the LCD. We'll see if this works. I have to wait about two months for the part to arrive, argh.
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#266398 - 20/08/2006 03:55
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
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New LCD assembly came. Installed without a hitch. Works fine. PHEW.
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#266399 - 20/08/2006 07:48
Re: My Canon SD500 LCD Broke...
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2489
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Well done! Now... keep it in a pocket on its own!
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