#268511 - 07/11/2005 18:40
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: wfaulk]
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Sheesh- looks like the days of bringing a CD to work to listen on your PC are over. Now Network Admins have to worry about store bought CDs containing viruses. Oh, wait, the days of bringing CDs to work was over when I bought my empeg . . . 
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#268512 - 07/11/2005 19:09
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: StigOE]
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pooh-bah
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Stig,
The Group Policy setting is under:
GPNAME\User Configuration\Administrative Templates\System\Turn off Autoplay.
Screenshot attached.
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#268513 - 08/11/2005 11:53
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: JeffS]
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Sheesh- looks like the days of bringing a CD to work to listen on your PC are over. Now Network Admins have to worry about store bought CDs containing viruses.
Oh, wait, the days of bringing CDs to work was over when I bought my empeg . . .
My company already started discussing prohibiting music CDs, thats where I got the original link (internal news server).
My only problem is that while my empeg is great for my desk, its not allowed in our labs. Since our labs are secured, there are no PDAs, laptops, cell phones, non-pressed discs, thumb drives, cameras (well, not even allowed on site), etc etc etc allowed. I have an awesome noise cancelling headset that I wear in there with the CDs that are actually allowed. If this change goes through, the choice is to either sit in the lab listening to silence, or take the headphones off and listen to the hum of all the computers, air handlers, etc. Thats a choice I'm really not looking forward to making.
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#268514 - 08/11/2005 13:12
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: Tim]
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If this change goes through, the choice is to either sit in the lab listening to silence, or take the headphones off and listen to the hum of all the computers, air handlers, etc. Thats a choice I'm really not looking forward to making.
Come on, now. Those are not your only choices.
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#268515 - 08/11/2005 18:04
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: Tim]
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the choice is to either sit in the lab listening to silence, or take the headphones off and listen to the hum of all the computers, air handlers, etc
Or... you could connect a wireless headphone setup to your empeg, sitting safely and "legally" on your desk, and listen to your empeg up to 300 feet away.
Would that work, or is your lab too great a distance from your desk?
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#268516 - 09/11/2005 05:04
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: Ezekiel]
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Thanks. I found it also under Computer Management. Would that be something different? I changed it in that place (found something on Microsoft, where Computer Management where mentioned).
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#268517 - 09/11/2005 06:29
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: JeffS]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/02/2002
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Sheesh- looks like the days of bringing a CD to work to listen on your PC are over.
For all intents and purposes, they already are, where I work. Not because we're worried about that (we're all linux on the desktop), but all our machines are locked away in a machine room with a big air-conditioner.  With the exception of driving in vehicles, I haven't listened to CDs or my Empeg in ages -- it's all streaming audio. Fortunately, they haven't clamped down on that, yet. 
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#268518 - 09/11/2005 10:38
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: canuckInOR]
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it's all streaming audio. Fortunately, they haven't clamped down on that, yet.
Lucky you, that's not been an option at either of my last two jobs. I'd love to have streming audio as an option for finding new music while I work, but they are too worried about bandwidth and security.
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#268519 - 09/11/2005 21:11
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: Tim]
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Article on msnbc. I don't really think this does a fair job of explaining what the problem with this is, but at least they mention some of the symptoms. My favorite quote from the article: Quote:
Jacobs says people just have to get used to music CDs behaving like software CDs.
NONE of my software CDs behave like this! 
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#268520 - 09/11/2005 21:26
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: StigOE]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 25/08/2000
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This article covers the bases pretty well for disabling autoplay on a single machine.
-Zeke
NY Times article about antivirus companies taggining this crap (however not removing it, sadly).
Edited by Ezekiel (09/11/2005 21:45)
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#268521 - 10/11/2005 04:32
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: Ezekiel]
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It wasn't Computer Management, it was Computer Configuration, the main branch above User Configuration in your screenshot that I changed. And I would like to do it domain-wise, instead of having to walk around to all the computers to disable it...
Stig
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#268522 - 10/11/2005 10:41
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: Tim]
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Its getting intresting now http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/4424254.stmWhat really confuses me is if you read the article Why would you have to copy protect a celion dion CD? thats just too wierd
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#268523 - 10/11/2005 11:21
Re: Fun DRM Software
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Why would you have to copy protect a celion dion CD? thats just too wierd
Currently on a 3 hour conf call with a government department and 2 professional services suppliers.
They wondered what the choking laughter noise was...
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#268524 - 10/11/2005 11:21
Re: Fun DRM Software
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Another interesting one in that list is Trey Anastasio's "Shine". Given his work with Phish, one of the bands that has always allowed taping and trading, it seems strange that he would approve any kind of viral copy protection.
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#268525 - 10/11/2005 11:58
Re: Fun DRM Software
[Re: pgrzelak]
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Another interesting one in that list is Trey Anastasio's "Shine". Given his work with Phish, one of the bands that has always allowed taping and trading, it seems strange that he would approve any kind of viral copy protection.
I doubt that the artists get much say in it. Taping a live performance is a very different thing from copying a CD that was paid for by the record company.
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#268526 - 10/11/2005 12:07
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[Re: thinfourth2]
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Its getting intresting now
Great link- thanks. I love that Symantec is releasing software to detect this thing. Kind of reveals its spots doesn't it?
I hope these lawsuits go somewhere- Sony & friends need to be held accountable for this.
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#268527 - 10/11/2005 13:07
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[Re: JeffS]
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Yeah, but Symantec is not removing it... Pity...
I hope the lawsuits go well, but I also really like the publicity this is getting. Remember - it is expensive for Sony to add copy protection to a CD title, due to the licensing involved. If all of their "protected" titles are publicly known and the sales of those CDs are less than expected, it might get Sony to think twice before using it.
Meanwhile, I just bought two new CDs from Sony (yes, shameful, I know) that do not appear to have the protection on them but still have huge FBI anti-piracy warnings all over the CDs and packaging. I so enjoy being made to feel like a criminal by the same people whose products I am buying...
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#268528 - 10/11/2005 14:08
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[Re: pgrzelak]
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I so enjoy being made to feel like a criminal by the same people whose products I am buying...
And that right there is why I'm not wanting to buy anymore CDs, and DVDs from major labels.
I just bought a copy of Office Space, and when I put it in, the first thing that came up was that comercial about you'd not steal a purse...Copying a DVD is the same thing... Now if that would have not been skippable, I'd have been taking that DVD back.
Accusing the customer of being a thief is the best way of driving away business.
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#268529 - 10/11/2005 14:59
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[Re: BAKup]
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the first thing that came up was that comercial about you'd not steal a purse...
Yeah, that really pisses me off. I did buy the damn DVD. If they keep it up, I will go looking for it on some filesharing system somewhere, just to avoid the non-skippable crap at the start...
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#268530 - 10/11/2005 16:15
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[Re: Roger]
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Not to mention that the analogy is pretty lousy.
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#268531 - 10/11/2005 16:19
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[Re: thinfourth2]
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Its getting intresting now
All that lovely bad PR and now seemingly an LGPL violation too...
Peter
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#268532 - 10/11/2005 16:26
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[Re: peter]
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And in another happy development, a virus is now out that uses Sony's "protection" to hide itself.
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#268533 - 10/11/2005 18:04
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[Re: BAKup]
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I just bought a copy of Office Space, and when I put it in, the first thing that came up was that comercial about you'd not steal a purse...
This is annoying in a further way.
One of the little jokes about the Office Space DVD (albeit somewhat dated now) is that it is supposed to look like you have a virus when you first insert the DVD, and you are supposed to be freaked out for about a second and a half until you realize it is bogus.
It was a little stupid watching this happen on a TV/DVD combo rather than a PC. But the "joke" is completely ruined if you have to watch a stupid anti-piracy commercial and/or some previews before the "virus problem" pops up.
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#268534 - 11/11/2005 01:50
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[Re: StigOE]
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The screen shot I used was from a Group Policy which is applied to the entire domain. If you're not sure how to set a GP on the domain, I need to dig you up a link for some good basic Windows Domain info, since I'm sure that'd explain it better than I could. I'll see what I can find tomorrow, I'm just off to bed at the moment.
Edit: What's another minute or two? Here's a link from the good folks at MIT.
-Zeke
Edited by Ezekiel (11/11/2005 01:57)
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#268535 - 11/11/2005 13:01
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[Re: Ezekiel]
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Great. Thanks for the link. Looks like I have some reading to do... Stig
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#268536 - 12/11/2005 03:12
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[Re: thinfourth2]
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Registered: 19/09/2002
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XCP PROTECTED CDS
Our Lady Peace - Healthy in Paranoid Times
Haha, funny coincidental title. A shame, I would actually consider buying that CD. Rrrrrrrgh, not anymore. And it's sad to see those jazz guys on there. Oh well, Sony owns them, I guess.
Time for me to buy into digitally distributed music.
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#268537 - 26/01/2006 08:28
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[Re: FireFox31]
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THIS IS WHY I PIRATE ALL MY MUSIC... or maybe more accurately all of Sony's music. LOL
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#268538 - 26/01/2006 12:08
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[Re: stahimooney]
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THIS IS WHY I PIRATE ALL MY MUSIC... or maybe more accurately all of Sony's music. LOL
Are you sure copy protection is what's making you pirate music? When Macrovision was being used on VHS tapes, did that force you to steal the video somehow?
I own a legit copy of Healty in Paranoid Times. I had no trouble what-so-ever ripping it in a Windows environment. If you want to be a thief, that's fine. I just think it's too easy to blame copy protection for your lifestyle.
I don't steal music, but I'm not exactly holy when it comes to other content that can be shared over the internet. For that stuff, I can admit I'm a cheap ass (or lazy in some cases).
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#268539 - 26/01/2006 13:36
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[Re: robricc]
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Rob, if you walked in to a corner store, would you take a picture of a candy bar and walk out without paying a royalty to both the store owner and the confection's manufacturer? Stealing is stealing. Bruno
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