#27642 - 04/03/2001 19:05
Tuner Module
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Registered: 21/05/1999
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At Woodside we showed a production prototype of the tuner module, which is going into production in a matter of days.
The module supports FM, AM and LW bands (and maybe the US weather band, subject to software). The surprise extra feature is an interface for the Sony stick controller, providing for connection of this useful control device without using up the docked serial interface. A number of third parties offer convertors between factory control buttons and the Sony interface.
We expect to begin shipping tuners to those that participated in the Mk.1 upgrade deal within the next couple of weeks, although due to high demand it will take several weeks to achieve a shipping from stock status. I'll post a notification when the product is available to order at the e-store.
Regards
Rob
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#27643 - 05/03/2001 01:21
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: rob]
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I'm really suprised noone else said anything about this yet. I for one was glad to see the tuner module continue to have features added while time went on. Having AM, LW, and the Sony interface is going to be well worth the money compaired to the origional plans for an FM only tuner.
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#27644 - 05/03/2001 03:13
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: rob]
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The surprise extra feature is an interface for the Sony stick controller, providing for connection of this useful control device without using up the docked serial interface. A number of third parties offer convertors between factory control buttons and the Sony interface.
Hmpf!
Couldn't you say that before I built the interface? Or didn't you know that before?
Well - doesn't really matter too much. Hopefully we won't have to wait too long for the tuner module any more - then I can make all the install at once - the control-stick-hookup, the mic and the tuner...
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#27645 - 05/03/2001 06:25
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: rob]
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journeyman
Registered: 07/12/2000
Posts: 69
Loc: Rhode Island
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In reply to:
The module supports FM, AM and LW bands (and maybe the US weather band, subject to software).
That is good news! I am pleasantly surprised about the possible inclusion of the US weather bands. For me, its icing on the coolness cake. And I am sure for boaters, it would be a most useful tool!
Is "LW" referring to "longwave"? (sorta like shortwave). What is broadcast on that? Worldwide BBC radio types of things? Or can we listen in on local hams?
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#27646 - 05/03/2001 09:15
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: greggerm]
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Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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LW is long wave, Radio 4 in the UK is transmitted on 198khz on Long Wave. It can be received in most of Western Europe I think. I don't think there is much else on Long Wave in Europe.
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#27647 - 05/03/2001 11:11
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: teemcbee]
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Pooh-Bah
Registered: 09/09/1999
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Loc: San Jose, CA
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Well, it means the serial port is freed up for more goodies.
Calvin
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#27648 - 05/03/2001 12:07
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: greggerm]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
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Great news! I'll cross my fingers for weather bands. Like a lot of boats, mine already has a VHF set with built in weather bands, but I would really like having this in my car -- nice having NOAA weather on tap when deciding whether to drive home over the Cascades or whatever.
The joystick option is *really* intruguing. The VHF unit on my boat allows the addition of an optional "RAM Mic" microphone with an LCD display and control buttons -- allows you to operate all radio functions from the cockpit (or wherever you install it). The joystick could allow the same. Now if I can figure a way to get a remote LCD display to duplicate the Empeg display below decks, mate it to the Sony, then waterproof the whole things...that would be incredibly sweet.
Jim
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#27649 - 05/03/2001 12:51
Re: Tuner Module - RDS / RBDS?
[Re: rob]
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Registered: 21/01/2001
Posts: 19
Loc: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
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Hello.
Great news about the tuner. In previous posts this module was supposed to include Radio Data System (RDS), also known as Radio Broadcast Data System (RBDS), and some ability to record from the tuner or the auxilary input. Can we still expect to enjoy these features when the tuner arrives?
Adrian
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#27650 - 05/03/2001 13:47
Re: Tuner Module - RDS / RBDS?
[Re: sts103]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
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Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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RDS/RBDS is in there, yes. Recording from the tuner won't be available. The hardware can record the tuner when listening to it, but as the tuner has no MPX decode on board it can't do this when (eg) listening to mp3s.
Hugo
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#27651 - 05/03/2001 14:18
Re: Tuner Module - RDS / RBDS?
[Re: altman]
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Im a little confused on your statement.....
"Recording from the tuner won't be available. The hardware can record the tuner when listening to it, but as the tuner has no MPX decode on board it can't do this when (eg) listening to mp3s."
Does this mean we can record from the tuner while listening to it? or not?
If not, Why? ... Should be no different than any portable radio thats records from the radio. "most do"
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#27652 - 05/03/2001 14:37
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: andy]
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Registered: 25/06/1999
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Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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There's a lot of (reasonable) French music stations, a couple of German (Austrian?) stations that are mainly talk, and I seem to be able to pick up a fair amount of other stuff that I am not (as a mere human) able to decode One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015
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#27653 - 05/03/2001 21:59
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: jimhogan]
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Registered: 06/10/1999
Posts: 2591
Loc: Seattle, WA, U.S.A.
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(always answering my own posts...)
No sooner do I dream of a marinized, LCD-equipped RM-X4S-style remote control unit than some bloke is selling one:
http://www.access-tech.net/mrc1.htm
Granted, It doesn't look like I can get full Empeg visuals, but it still might be worth installing.
Jim
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#27654 - 05/03/2001 22:03
Re: Tuner Module - RDS / RBDS?
[Re: flashman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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You can record while listening to the tuner - but not while listening to MP3's or Aux. Note that this is unlikely to make 1.1.
Rob
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#27655 - 05/03/2001 22:07
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: teemcbee]
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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It was a last minute decision. We realise that this could step on the toes of a few people (I was nervous to look across to Big John at the meet after we announced this!) but it seems a worthwhile addition to the module, saving the serial port for other applications.
Of course Mk.1 owners would still need an interface.
Rob
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#27656 - 05/03/2001 22:11
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: rob]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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OK, having been duly berated, my "going into production in a matter of days" comment was probably a little too enthusiastic. It is going into production any day now, but that involves all sorts of PCB manufacture, assembly, testing and so forth - it'll be a while before any modules ship.
I guess my point was that the "while" is much less of a while than it once was
Rob
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#27657 - 06/03/2001 01:25
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: andy]
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Registered: 22/09/2000
Posts: 195
Loc: Copenhagen, Denmark
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Hi there,
The main danish radio is also broadcasting on longwave. I havn't got a clue what frequency they're broadcasting on, but i know it's populair among the truckdrives and others traveling. It's allways nice to hear the local news no matter how irelevant they are..
In reply to:
LW is long wave, Radio 4 in the UK is transmitted on 198khz on Long Wave. It can be received in most of Western Europe I think. I don't think there is much else on Long Wave in Europe.
Regards, Kaare.
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#27659 - 06/03/2001 09:06
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: jane]
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Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 9
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Wasnīt the tuner suppose to handle the new digital radio standard or do I remember wrong?
Itīs great anyway itīs finally on the way ...
/nB
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#27660 - 06/03/2001 14:22
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: brask]
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Registered: 24/06/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Chile
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No, what you remember is someone's question about that topic some time ago. I believe (correct me if I'm wrong) that the tuner module wasn't designed with that in mind.
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#27661 - 06/03/2001 14:27
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: brask]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
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The interface is designed to accommodate possible future modules fror DAB, XM and future standards. These may or may not happen depending on demand.
Rob
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#27662 - 06/03/2001 17:31
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: rob]
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Registered: 26/01/2001
Posts: 9
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one word for this announcement !
hooray !!!!
you wouldnt believe how happy i am now that i will get RDS traffic announcements as i navigate through London rush hour, joy.
Craig
i suppose i will have to go and buy a sony stick control now though.... ;)
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#27663 - 07/03/2001 10:03
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: rob]
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addict
Registered: 04/11/1999
Posts: 649
Loc: Reading, UK
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I'd definitely buy a DAB tuner. (In fact I've already got my money out!).
Cheers,
Paul.
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#27664 - 08/03/2001 08:35
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: phaigh]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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I'd second that, though I would have to upgrade from my Mk1 to a Riocar first.
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#27665 - 08/03/2001 12:20
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: andy]
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journeyman
Registered: 03/12/2000
Posts: 50
Loc: Berlin, Germany
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I would also buy one......DAB Module and the Option to record sounds really nice....
janosch
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#27666 - 24/03/2001 17:35
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: rob]
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Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 105
Loc: Annandale, VA
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Ok, so what is the status now? Over two weeks later, and desparately hoping for the tuner module!
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#27667 - 26/03/2001 02:52
TIM? (was: Re: Tuner Module)
[Re: rob]
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Registered: 21/03/2001
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Just out of curiosity: Some of the newer Blaupunkt head units have a function called "TIM" - Traffic Information Memory. What it does, basically, is storing Traffic Information announcements in a low-sampling-rate chip buffer for later playback, even when just playing a CD or when the head unit is "turned off". Using a timer, it can even do this when the car is parked.
This is quite a handy function to have in the morning when getting into the car and finding out that your favorite Autobahn is jammed before actualling getting onto it :)
Any plans to do something like this with the empeg tuner?
Olli
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#27668 - 26/03/2001 10:44
TIM? (was: Re: Tuner Module)
[Re: owagner]
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Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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Sorry, no plans at the moment. It is possible, but it requires powering the amps/display as this is the switched power line the tuner is run from :|
Hugo
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#27669 - 27/03/2001 06:28
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: altman]
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Registered: 05/09/2000
Posts: 210
Loc: Ipswich, MA
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I have a 97 Jetta with the Empeg installed in the Factory radio slot.
When I installed it I made sure to position the tuner interface and the antenna cable so that they could be reached through the large hole in the bottom of the sled.
There is plenty of room underneath the sled, the question is will the tuner module fit through the hole in the bottom of the sled. If so I could hook it up without having to pull the sled and risk damaging the wiring loom.
Your response is greatly appreciated
John
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#27670 - 27/03/2001 07:49
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: jwtadmin]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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Yes, it should do. I don't have the prototype casings here, but it looks like it will.
Hugo
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#27671 - 27/03/2001 23:22
TIM? (was: Re: Tuner Module)
[Re: owagner]
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Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
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Whew. Man, oh man. I thought you guys were going to start working me personally over for this tuner module....
What a relief to find the true thread of this topic.
--Tim
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#27672 - 27/03/2001 23:30
TIM? (was: Re: Tuner Module)
[Re: time]
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Whew. Man, oh man. I thought you guys were going to start working me personally over for this tuner module....
ROFL
Yeah, now that Rob's knob has been sorted, what's happening with Tim's tuner module?
Borislav
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#27673 - 27/03/2001 23:37
TIM? (was: Re: Tuner Module)
[Re: borislav]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Yeah, now that Rob's knob has been sorted, what's happening with Tim's tuner module?
That was nothing compared to Peter's Partition Problem. Good news is that one's been fixed. ___________
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#27674 - 28/03/2001 15:04
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: rob]
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journeyman
Registered: 26/08/2000
Posts: 98
Loc: Tartu, Estonia, Europe
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In reply to:
Of course Mk.1 owners would still need an interface.
Rob
Does this mean that it is possible to use tuner module with MK1 somehow? It would be great because its quite impossible to listen my favourite station with MK1 internal reciever, the signal is not strong enough. And i can't afford upgradeing to MK2 on the moment.
Does the new module has a solution for power antenna. I don't like the antenna being out all the time when empeg is powered on and i'm not listening the radio.
Veiko
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#27675 - 28/03/2001 15:23
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: veixl]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
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There's no way to hook the Mk2 tuner up to the Mk1, I'm afraid. Sorry.
As far as the power antenna goes, that's a good question. Some radios have a separate control wire for the antenna, others assume that the amp remote line is sufficient. What's the word, Hugo or Rob? Will the Mark2 tuner have a separate antenna control wire, so that you don't raise the antenna when listening to MP3s? ___________
Tony Fabris
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#27676 - 28/03/2001 15:46
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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It doesn't have an antenna control wire, it puts 12v on the antenna feed as necessary, which is how powered antennas normally work (they sense the DC offset on the antenna and extend as necessary)
Hugo
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#27677 - 01/04/2001 14:06
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: altman]
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Registered: 03/12/1999
Posts: 118
Loc: Germany
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> It doesn't have an antenna control wire, it puts 12v on the antenna feed as necessary, which is how powered
> antennas normally work (they sense the DC offset on the antenna and extend as necessary)
Sorry, but I never saw any Head Unit without a control line for powered antennas, and also no powered antenna without the power line...
bye
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#27678 - 01/04/2001 15:42
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: Lemmy]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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We've moved the powered antenna line to a wire (very last minute mod).
VWs (eg, my beetle) has a powered antenna which is powered *up the antenna cable* - no separate wire. This is common on new VWs & Audis.
Hugo
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#27679 - 01/04/2001 17:17
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: altman]
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Registered: 20/02/2001
Posts: 345
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Thank you, Thank You, Thank You.
I'd much rather have a slightly later tuner, than not having the antenna wire...
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#27680 - 02/04/2001 09:25
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: altman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
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We've moved the powered antenna line to a wire (very last minute mod).
Sweet! Guess that BBS post came just in time? ___________
Tony Fabris
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#27681 - 02/04/2001 15:27
Re: Tuner Module
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
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No, it was more a result of me buying a few powered antennas last week :)
Hugo
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