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#305291 - 19/12/2007 03:15 Re: New Theme issues [Re: gbeer]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
 Originally Posted By: gbeer
1. The background and border of the area around "New Reply" to blend with the black background. Also, same background change for page numbers on the opposite side from 1.

Unfortunately, the class that is used for those two elements is reused all over the place. There's no way to single out those particular elements without rewriting the HTML, and I got deep into a rabbit hole doing that this afternoon for a much easier change; I'm disinclined to do it again. If I do, it'll be after the simpler CSS changes are done.

 Originally Posted By: gbeer
2. Also the look would be better without black separation between posts and instead substituting a darker blue as shown.

I'm still contemplating the separation between posts. The subject line you want to give a different background color, ironically, uses the same class as the elements you wanted a black background for.

The styles they use are overcomplicated in some areas and not complicated enough in others. Go figure.
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#305292 - 19/12/2007 03:28 Re: New Theme issues [Re: FireFox31]
wfaulk
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 Originally Posted By: FireFox31
The font color for number of unread posts, next to number of total posts in a thread, in forum index view, is a little dark and hard to see.

I tried making it a whiter color, but it didn't help until it got all the way to white, so I tried making it bold. That seems to help some. What do you think?
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#305299 - 19/12/2007 15:06 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
Can we also please have a LARGE fonts (+2 pts) version of this? The teensy fonts are tricky to read on a 100dpi screen here.

Cheers

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#305301 - 19/12/2007 15:25 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
Bitt, are the colors for the rows on threads with new posts really the same as they used to be? They look different to me...
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#305302 - 19/12/2007 15:43 Re: New Theme issues [Re: mlord]
wfaulk
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There is a large version already.
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#305303 - 19/12/2007 15:43 Re: New Theme issues [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Probably not. I have no real way to find what the old colors were, so I made up some new ones.
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#305304 - 19/12/2007 16:02 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
wfaulk
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I was given multiple ways to discover the old new-post colors. As it turns out, there was no alternation between colors. All new posts were the same lighter color, and wasn't all that close to what I had come up with. It's fixed now.
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#305306 - 19/12/2007 17:54 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
wfaulk
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 Originally Posted By: wfaulk
What should be done with the double icon column?

I've created two new styles, one each way, just so you can see.
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#305315 - 19/12/2007 20:31 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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 Originally Posted By: wfaulk
 Originally Posted By: wfaulk
What should be done with the double icon column?

I've created two new styles, one each way, just so you can see.

Yeah, I definitely like the style without the folders. They're pretty useless, since it's extremely clear which threads have a new post based on the very different background color.

Thanks for fixing that background color , by the way. For me, that was the biggest improvement in terms of making it look like the old board. I just had this weird feeling that all was not right \:\)
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#305330 - 20/12/2007 02:07 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
I'd like the no new/no mood themes combined! Get rid of everything except the title. The folders in the main page are also kind of large - was it that way with the old board?
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#305334 - 20/12/2007 03:35 Re: New Theme issues [Re: cushman]
wfaulk
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No. I'm working on that.
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#305359 - 20/12/2007 17:05 Re: New Theme issues [Re: cushman]
canuckInOR
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Registered: 13/02/2002
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Loc: Portland, OR
 Originally Posted By: cushman
I'd like the no new/no mood themes combined!

Agreed.

And thanks, Bitt... all the work you've put into this project is appreciated.

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#305361 - 20/12/2007 17:25 Re: New Theme issues [Re: canuckInOR]
wfaulk
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I've added a neither-icon theme.

Let's try the poll again now that everyone can see the final results for themselves.

Of course, once it's finalized, there's not really a particular drawback to having all four available. For now, though, it's a pain to update four different ones for each change.


Which icons?
Only one choice allowed (7 total votes)
Both icons - 0 (0%)
New/Old icon only - 1 (14%)
\"Mood\" icon only - 4 (57%)
Neither icon - 2 (29%)
Voting on this poll ends: 25/12/2007 12:22
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#305362 - 20/12/2007 18:51 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
JBjorgen
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Registered: 19/01/2002
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Loc: Columbus, OH
I changed my vote from the first poll to the second after playing with the stylesheets. Thanks for making them available. If we do go with mood icons only, is there any way to tighten up that column so there's not so much extra space in it?
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#305363 - 20/12/2007 19:22 Re: New Theme issues [Re: JBjorgen]
wfaulk
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I'm not sure. The way I'm doing it now is by removing the border between those two columns and then setting one image to not display. But that means that that other column's cell is still there.

I don't want to remove that column from the template, because that would probably break other themes.

I can use CSS to tell it to not display the cell, but that shifts all the other cells back one column and breaks the table layout. CSS doesn't have a way to redefine colspan in order to fix that, either.

I don't think there's a way to get the image to span two columns.

The only thing I can think of is to make that other column zero width. Hm. I wonder if that's possible.

BRB.
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#305364 - 20/12/2007 19:27 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
wfaulk
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Okay, weird. Setting those cells to have a width of either 0px or 1px makes that extraneous space even bigger, by a lot. Like ten times as much.
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#305366 - 20/12/2007 20:43 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
JBjorgen
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perhaps make it display: none ?
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#305367 - 20/12/2007 21:13 Re: New Theme issues [Re: JBjorgen]
wfaulk
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That's what I meant by:
 Originally Posted By: wfaulk
I can use CSS to tell it to not display the cell, but that shifts all the other cells back one column and breaks the table layout.
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#305417 - 25/12/2007 04:56 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
pedrohoon
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Registered: 06/08/2002
Posts: 333
Loc: The Pilbara, Western Australia
Thank you to everyone for the effort put in on this theme - as was mentioned in another thread, this feels like home again!
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#305469 - 27/12/2007 07:03 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
wfaulk
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I changed the style to try to use Arial before trying Helvetica instead of the other way around. All the browsers I tried either looked better that way or the same.

The reason for the change is that Firefox under MacOSX renders small-point Helvetica horribly, but Arial just fine. This change probably should have been made years ago.

Let me know if this causes an issue for anyone.
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#305476 - 27/12/2007 14:39 Re: New Theme issues [Re: wfaulk]
tfabris
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Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
Thanks again for all the work on the stylesheet. It's looking really good.

I agree completely about the Arial->Helvetica ordering, too. \:\)
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#305738 - 04/01/2008 15:28 Re: New Theme issues [Re: tfabris]
Taym
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Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
I too want to thank you for making this theme look exactly as the old board used to. I just love it and feel at home. I have to say that this color combination is quite unique. It just means "empeg" to me. smile
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#305776 - 05/01/2008 18:59 Re: New Theme issues [Re: Taym]
music
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Registered: 25/06/2002
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Thanks, Bitt (and others).
I appreciate the dedication and skill of everyone here to keep this community going (and comfortable).


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#305792 - 06/01/2008 07:42 Re: New Theme issues [Re: music]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
+1 more on that sentiment.
It really is good here.
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