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#352684 - 13/06/2012 13:26 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: mlord]
sein
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Originally Posted By: mlord
Do both of these phones have micro-SD slots?
Is there a (good) email client that will talk IMAP to any arbitrary email server, or are they locked to gmail?

Thanks!

The new HTC One S and One X phones do not include MicroSD slots, all of the others do.

None of the phones are locked to GMail, they include a GMail app but this can easily be disabled of you don't use it. All of these phones also include an Email app which can talk POP3, IMAP and Microsoft Exchange, and from what I hear they are quite acceptable. Plus, you can install something else (like, K9 Mail for example) if you don't like it.
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#352687 - 13/06/2012 16:26 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: sein]
mlord
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Okay, so the Samsung S3 does have micro-SD ?
(too lazy to re-research the specs just now). wink

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#352692 - 13/06/2012 20:23 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: mlord]
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Yes, the S3 does have MicroSD.
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#352693 - 13/06/2012 20:24 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: StigOE]
Shonky
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Originally Posted By: StigOE
Originally Posted By: Dignan
[quote=Shonky]I'm with Christian in that I've had that exact same annoyance taking my phone out of my pocket. When you're listening to podcasts and constantly taking the phone out to fast forward or something, it's helpful to not have to turn the phone around every time, needing two hands.

Wouldn't putting Cyanogen on the phone rectify that problem? Of course, in most cases that means rooting the phone, but I would do that anyway just so I could put CM on the phone.

In what way? I don't think CM can move the headphone socket smile Do you mean flip the screen 180?

Yes the One X doesn't have any upgradeable memory slots.

As for IMAP, the built in email client supports Exchange, IMAP and POP3 no problem. I haven't really used it that much since I host my personal email address with Google now but from what I've seen it works fine.

There are some paid for email apps too.
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#352700 - 14/06/2012 12:26 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: Shonky]
StigOE
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Originally Posted By: Shonky
In what way? I don't think CM can move the headphone socket smile Do you mean flip the screen 180?

Yes, I mean flip the screen 180. smile

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#352712 - 14/06/2012 21:51 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: StigOE]
Shonky
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Buttons end up at the wrong end though.
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#353800 - 06/08/2012 12:26 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: Shonky]
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Last week, I ended up with the AT&T LTE variant of the Galaxy S III (SGH-i747). What I typically do with a non-vanilla Android phone is flash a third party ROM immediately. My usual choice of CM9 and CM10 were available. I flashed CM10 which was/is a very early preview build with quite a few show-stopping bugs.

I can live with unstable wifi, broken bluetooth, and a laundry list of other things for a while. However, there is one problem that may force me back to the trusty Galaxy S II for a bit...

Is anyone else's SGS3 losing sync with Google when the phone screen is locked and on cellular (not wifi)? I'm interested in hearing from stock TouchWiz users in addition to anyone using a custom ROM. It's like no notifications get delivered until I turn the screen on. Then they all come in at once.

I'm trying to determine if it's a modem firmware issue or just something wrong with the early ROM.
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#353801 - 06/08/2012 12:39 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: robricc]
Shonky
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I have noticed something like this I think. It seems to stop getting push emails. When I wake it up, some emails come through. I wouldn't say it happens all the time though and so far it hasn't bothered me too much.

Other services still seem to work OK like facebook notifications.

Stock SGS III ROM, regular 3G version.
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#353803 - 06/08/2012 12:49 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: Shonky]
robricc
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Interesting that Google notifications don't seem to work for you, while the notifications from other apps do. I always assumed that all notifications flowed through Google somehow, but I could definitely be wrong.

For me, turning on the screen will often let loose a deluge of gmail, foursquare, and yelp notifications. I will keep an eye on Facebook, but I don't get too many notifications there.
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#353828 - 06/08/2012 21:06 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: robricc]
Shonky
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Weird. Got an email notification from Matt but the post is non-existent here.

Originally Posted By: Dignan
That really sounds like a problem with the ROM. I'm pretty sure we'd hear from tons of people with SIII's if that were happening to everyone...


True, I would expect that too. But I've certainly experienced a similar symptom. I've just not done much about it and it certainly doesn't always happen.

I don't have foursquare or yelp. Only really gmail and facebook (which I'm probably going to turn off actually) as regular push type notifications. Tapatalk is off since it was coming too often and seemed to mess up the last logged in parameter.
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#353831 - 06/08/2012 21:33 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: Shonky]
Dignan
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Heh, yeah, I deleted that because you responded as an S3 owner so I figured you were in a better position to answer the question smile
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#353832 - 06/08/2012 21:39 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: Dignan]
Shonky
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It's a fair comment regardless. I will pay a bit more attention to it in the meantime.
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#353835 - 07/08/2012 03:01 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: Shonky]
Shonky
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Yeah today in the office (where there is Wi-Fi but only for work machines - I use Tasker to detect it and silence my phone in the office only) it is definitely not getting Gmail in real time.

I wake it up and a 5-10 seconds later I get an email or two or more (or I force a Gmail refresh). At home as far as I can tell it is instant i.e. my Outlook on my laptop and my phone alert basically happen simultaneously. The facebook alerts are pretty rare. Maybe I'll temporarily put an alert on one of my more prolific friends on facebook to test.

Without signing up to some other social networking site what else can I try? Maybe installing an app from Google Play?

It doesn't appear to happen instantly i.e. put phone to standby by pressing the power button and send an email a few seconds later. It vibrates and Lightflow flashes to signify an email as expected. Not sure at which point it stops but I'll take a guess and say somewhere around 5 minutes.
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#353858 - 07/08/2012 13:34 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: Shonky]
robricc
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I've been doing some experimentation and maybe figured it out, at least with my phone.

On AT&T in the US, if you have an LTE data plan, you have access to an alternate APN. It's actually the only preloaded APN on AT&T-branded LTE phones, and CM9 and CM10 use it as the default on this phone. When I switch the phone to use the old 3G/HSPA+ APN, notifications seem to be getting through with the screen off.

I don't really know what to make of this finding. Perhaps when on the LTE APN, the phone uses more juice and goes into some hibernation mode? There is no selection for that kind of behavior in CM that I can see, so hopefully this is tweaked over time.

Maybe there is a problem with the LTE APN itself or maybe the way the phone hunts for LTE signal? My area is mostly HSPA+, but I have tasted LTE over the weekend. Hopefully I won't have to keep it disabled for too much longer:

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#353865 - 07/08/2012 14:41 Re: HTC One X or Samsung Galaxy S3 [Re: robricc]
drakino
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Originally Posted By: robricc
I don't really know what to make of this finding. Perhaps when on the LTE APN, the phone uses more juice and goes into some hibernation mode? There is no selection for that kind of behavior in CM that I can see, so hopefully this is tweaked over time.

This seems like a good theory. LTE as currently implemented is data only, and in most phones (can't find conformation on the S III) it's a completely different chip. The phone must remain on the 3G network for voice, but may only keep LTE active when it believes the user is actively using the device. It's likely something that needs to be tweaked in the custom rom to ensure proper fallback to 3G, including registering with the push servers what IP the device has. Or forcing LTE on all the time, which will likely result in a heavy battery drain due to two independent radios being up and running full time.

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