Speaking of mis-priced hunks of shit: http://www.philips-shop.co.uk/store/cata...B_SHOPPUB/GB/en

Image link: http://images.philips.com/is/image/PhilipsConsumer/FWP3200D_05-IMS-global

It's a dual iPod dock - and the site serves its image gallery using Flash. Nice. $470 USD based on pounds sterling price.

Though if you want to see prices completely out of touch with reality, but with more amenable designs, you only need to look at anything from Bose or B&O.

I actually quite like that, it is so over the top that it moves into the strangely awesome category...

Not that I'd actually buy one.

But it's more than a dual iPod dock; it's a DJ-in-a-box setup. Rotating docks that pair with their custom app for scratching, and a fader to go back and forth. It doesn't seem that unreasonable, for the price. I'm not going to comment on the styling.

I'd still rather have a Numark box.

Also, you've fallen in to the classic mistake of comverting UKP to the dollar using the exchange rate. That isn't how UK/US electronics prices work. If you just did a 1:1 conversion you'd be closer to the actual likely US per-sales tax price.

Google should partner with Philips on the revised Q - it needs more flash. Wait, I think I've already seen their brainchild before:

To me there doesn't seem to be much wrong with the Q hardware, apart maybe for the price. I like the design, it looks to be well put together and I don't need audiophile quality amplification.

I know you have some sort of religious objection to the built in amp, but I'd happily take a couple of Qs is they were running Squeezebox software (though of course if they were they'd need a small fraction of the computing power that they've stuffed into the Q).

The Qs software in comparison is quite clearly a disaster and quite bizarrely useless.

I'm only looking at the Q product as a whole. And as a whole, it's less than the sum of its parts.

Agreed on Squeezebox. It's a shame Logitech has shit all over that platform and is pretty much not doing anything with it on either the hardware nor software front. While they've owned the brand/tech, Sonos has only increased its presence and product portfolio. In terms of commercial solutions, the Squeezebox line is currently irrelevant. Though I have no plans to move away from it, I could never recommend Logitech's hardware to anyone else as a new purchase.

Well, naturally.