Unoffical empeg BBS

Quick Links: Empeg FAQ | RioCar.Org | Hijack | BigDisk Builder | jEmplode | emphatic
Repairs: Repairs

Page 1 of 2 1 2 >
Topic Options
#36331 - 11/08/2001 03:20 appending playlist/track using the knob
borislav
addict

Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
Please see wish 4 on my list of top 3 wishes for background.

The attached utility modifies the player executable to implement this functionality exactly as suggested in the above post: browse the tree and enter a playlist as usual. When the triangle is highlighted, pressing the knob will append this playlist after the current one. Pressing the bottom button replaces the current playlist as before. Appending individual tracks works the same way.

Installation and usage instructions are the same as with my earlier menusort hack (except this time I've zipped it to avoid download problems - uncompress before sending to the empeg). Note that knobappend is a lot more invasive than menusort and will only work on the version of the player I developed it on - 1.03 mk2 developer.

Before people ask how - it involved reading a lot of assembly code, taking many register dumps at various points of execution of the player via a kernel hack and, in the final stretch, entering machine code into a hex editor. All very messy stuff that I'm not looking forward to doing again when 2.0 comes out...

Anyway, enjoy.

Borislav



Attachments
35485-knobappend.zip (17 downloads)


Top
#36332 - 11/08/2001 03:52 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
WOW!

Paul G.
SN# 090000587 (96GB Smoke)
_________________________
Paul Grzelak
200GB with 48MB RAM, Illuminated Buttons and Digital Outputs

Top
#36333 - 11/08/2001 04:30 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
bonzi
pooh-bah

Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
I was more than impressed by menusort, now I am speechless!

Dragi "Bonzi" Raos
Zagreb, Croatia
Q#5196, MkII#80000376, 18GB green
_________________________
Dragi "Bonzi" Raos Q#5196 MkII #080000376, 18GB green MkIIa #040103247, 60GB blue

Top
#36334 - 11/08/2001 08:28 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
cwillenbrock
enthusiast

Registered: 30/12/2000
Posts: 249
Loc: Dover, NJ
This is fantastic!

What a wonderful birthday present this is. How did you know?

--Chris Willenbrock
MK2 | 12GB | Queue Registration # 2 (really!)
_________________________
- Chris Orig. Empeg Queue position 2

Top
#36335 - 11/08/2001 09:31 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
I am totally speechless.

___________
Tony Fabris
_________________________
Tony Fabris

Top
#36336 - 11/08/2001 10:20 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Smart arse *grin*

We've been trying to come up with a consistant UI for doing this in 2.0 so maybe you won't have to go through it all over again, but in the meantime I think you just made a lot of friends!

Rob



Top
#36337 - 11/08/2001 13:11 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
this is great just what I wanted

thanks !

32Gig MK2 In 2001 VW Golf TDI
_________________________

Matt

Top
#36338 - 11/08/2001 15:29 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
Henno
addict

Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
I might even come to Italy to say thanks personally. Just as great as menusort

Henno
mk2 6 nr 6
_________________________
Henno mk2 [orange]6 [/orange]nr 6

Top
#36339 - 11/08/2001 15:55 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: Henno]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Borislav is from California, but If you do come to Italy I can offer you a drink somewhere...

Taym
_________________________
MK II BLUE/RED 12GB #923
_________________________
= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

Top
#36340 - 11/08/2001 17:05 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: rob]
borislav
addict

Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
We've been trying to come up with a consistant UI for doing this in 2.0 so maybe you won't have to go through it all over again, but in the meantime I think you just made a lot of friends!

Woohooo! Now I'm happy.

Borislav



Top
#36341 - 11/08/2001 17:11 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: Henno]
borislav
addict

Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
I might even come to Italy to say thanks personally.

Yeah, as Taym said, I live in California (the Bay Area) but if you are coming here for any reason, let me know.

Borislav



Top
#36342 - 11/08/2001 17:13 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: rob]
msaeger
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
if you guys are going to do it I would be great to make it the same except don't make the playlists dissapear after appending a track

I really like how borislav did it because I can either select or append without switching on and off anything just use the down arrow for select and the knob button for append

32Gig MK2 In 2001 VW Golf TDI
_________________________

Matt

Top
#36343 - 11/08/2001 23:57 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
Terminator
old hand

Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
This is really cool!! Too bad empeg didn't implement this functionality a long time ago.

Thx
Sean


Top
#36344 - 12/08/2001 08:35 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Awesome!

Let's see someone do that with a Neo 35!

-Tony
MkII #554
_________________________
- Tony C
my empeg stuff

Top
#36345 - 12/08/2001 11:03 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
crazymelki
enthusiast

Registered: 16/02/2001
Posts: 373
Loc: Switzerland
Thank you very mutch,

And after 32k Songs in the playlist I reached the limitation from the Empeg ;-).

Status today: I have now on my device about 3200 Songs and use about 20GB HDD Space.

Question: Is the limitation from the device 200GB = 32k Songs?

bye

CrazyMelki
_________________________
crazymelki.com

Top
#36346 - 12/08/2001 11:34 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: crazymelki]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
The number of songs is a different limitation from the size of the disk.

The size of the disk determines how many megabytes' worth of music you can store. The number of songs would be an internal database indexing limitation. The two would not necessarily have anything to do with each other.

I seem to recall that there was a database limitation somewhere, but I forget the exact parameters of that limitation. Anyone from empeg want to clarify?

___________
Tony Fabris
_________________________
Tony Fabris

Top
#36347 - 12/08/2001 15:36 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
fredq
new poster

Registered: 01/10/2000
Posts: 8
Loc: Menlo Park, CA
Sweet!!! This has been my biggest peeve. I appreciate the work you went through to get this to work.

-fred



Top
#36348 - 12/08/2001 15:44 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
Henno
addict

Registered: 15/07/1999
Posts: 568
Loc: Meije, Netherlands
Yeah, as Taym said, I live in California (the Bay Area)

[shame on]I should (could) have known[shame off]
But *if* you come to Italy, I'll say thanks personally

anyhow, kudoos

Henno
mk2 6 nr 6
_________________________
Henno mk2 [orange]6 [/orange]nr 6

Top
#36349 - 12/08/2001 15:51 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: fredq]
fredq
new poster

Registered: 01/10/2000
Posts: 8
Loc: Menlo Park, CA
I love it! I just downloaded it to my player and it works great!

-fred



Top
#36350 - 12/08/2001 18:34 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
bootsy
enthusiast

Registered: 17/08/2000
Posts: 334
Loc: Seattle, WA. USA
Wow... I think it's time to overcome my fear of non-empeg enhancements!

if only I had brought the serial cable to work...


Brian H. Johnson
MK2 36GB Blue
"Honey, you're wasting ammo..."
_________________________
Brian H. Johnson
MK2 36GB Blue, currently on life support
"RIP RCR..."

Top
#36351 - 12/08/2001 20:42 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: tfabris]
muzza
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
Sorry I can't clarify on the actual limit but I think Rob/Hugo/programmer-x said that they were rasing the limit in version 2. It has something to do with the scratch area on the disk I believe

Murray 06000047
ust increasing my post count
_________________________
-- Murray I What part of 'no' don't you understand? Is it the 'N', or the 'Zero'?

Top
#36352 - 13/08/2001 06:54 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
Sheetzam
member

Registered: 09/06/1999
Posts: 105
Loc: Annandale, VA
My God! I believe you have earned the title King Hacker. Machine code and hex editor indeed! Long live the King!

Now if only you could figure out how to do that for a Mk. 1! Perhaps a hack to the ir hack?


Top
#36353 - 13/08/2001 06:59 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: Sheetzam]
tms13
old hand

Registered: 30/07/2001
Posts: 1115
Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Sheetzam wrote:

> Now if only you could figure out how to do that for a Mk. 1!

It takes a real hacker to write software that adds a knob to a Mk1...

--
Toby Speight
_________________________
Toby Speight
030103016 (80GB Mk2a, blue)
030102806 (0GB Mk2a, blue)

Top
#36354 - 13/08/2001 22:53 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Excellent work. I'll definitly be installing this tomorrow when I get my serial cable back at work (since I somehow broke telnet). This is definitly bringing back the days of beta testing where we had a new feature quite often to admire and play with.


Top
#36355 - 14/08/2001 17:08 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
jwickis
addict

Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
Took me awhile to figure out what this was for, I didn't notice any difference at first, but this really cool. It was like OK push knob squint my eyes OK nothing abnormal nothing happened at all but wait. OK the current playlist didn't stop playing & jump to another, it's not what it did do so much as what it didn't.

#695 empeg-car Mk2/Green/Amber/Neon Red/Clear/Smoke-12Gig needs tuner,2.x, VR

"No buyers regret"

Top
#36356 - 16/08/2001 16:54 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: jwickis]
borislav
addict

Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA
it's not what it did do so much as what it didn't.

Good thinking - that's more or less how it works. If the last button press was the knob it calls the routine for appending to a playlist rather than replacing it, then it doesn't call the normally invoked routines for going back to the first track in the playlist and resuming playing it from the start.

Borislav




Top
#36357 - 16/08/2001 17:03 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: Sheetzam]
borislav
addict

Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 420
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA, USA


This hack relies pretty heavily on having two buttons (bottom and knob) that normally do the same thing, so not sure at all how it'd work on the mk1...

Borislav


Top
#36358 - 17/08/2001 00:54 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
rob
carpal tunnel

Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
We're considering implementing this functionality utilising press-and-hold of the bottom button (while in the Playlist menu). This will either perform an append immediately, or open a sub menu with Replace, Insert, and Append options.

Rob



Top
#36359 - 17/08/2001 05:33 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: borislav]
morrisdl
enthusiast

Registered: 21/08/2000
Posts: 346
Loc: Rochester, NY USA
Borislav -
SO COOL!! Thanks for sharing!

I hope empeg/SB has made you an alpha tester (or rewarded you in some other fashion), you have come up with some great enhancements for their product.


-Doug
Mk2-12G Blue (Now A/R Green)
_________________________
Cheers, -Doug Morrison Mk2-32G Back light buttons, Neon red screen

Top
#36360 - 17/08/2001 10:03 Re: appending playlist/track using the knob [Re: rob]
loren
carpal tunnel

Registered: 23/08/2000
Posts: 3826
Loc: SLC, UT, USA
Hrm... my immediate reaction is to have it just append when you hold the button down, but the more i think about it the more i like the idea of having the menu to choose which action i'd want to take. I know there are times when i'd want to append and times when i'd rather it insert, so having both options there without any extra steps would definitely be a plus. Either way... you should DEFINITELY have this functionality available without the remote.


|| loren.cox ||
_________________________
|| loren ||

Top
Page 1 of 2 1 2 >