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#41201 - 10/10/2001 16:05 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: muzza]
jwickis
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Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
In reply to:

I went shopping for a DVD player with a tape measure

bet that surprised a few sales persons




Today it would, not many rack mounted components anymore, although the Home Theatre still uses rack systems heavily.

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#41202 - 10/10/2001 17:40 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: Dignan]
dionysus
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Shrug; My Tivo has an Ethernet - it costed me about $100 plus about an hours worth of labor.
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#41203 - 10/10/2001 23:08 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: dionysus]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
Yes, it may have ethernet, but it doesn't have 100mbit ethernet with streaming to other replaytv 4000 units... or automatic advert skipping ;)

We had a demo of the 4000 series today (various empeg people in Santa Clara at the moment) and it's pretty darn impressive :)

Hugo


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#41204 - 10/10/2001 23:19 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
the description on the replay website sounds great too bad I just got the tivo (well there's always ebay)

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#41205 - 10/10/2001 23:26 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
Heh - you guys are right around the corner from me right now:) (I live 5 miles from the sonicblue HQ)
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#41206 - 11/10/2001 00:45 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
phaigh
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Registered: 04/11/1999
Posts: 649
Loc: Reading, UK
Ahh, but can it do PDC?

Or is it one of the US-Centric products that get sold in Europe, but don't really work properly (ala Tivo)?

Paul.

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#41207 - 11/10/2001 00:47 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
kimbotha
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Registered: 30/08/2000
Posts: 157
Loc: London, UK
Is it going to be available in Australia...?

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#41208 - 11/10/2001 15:07 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
time
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Registered: 20/11/2000
Posts: 279
Loc: Pacific Northwest
Here is a link to a nice description of some of the new Replay 4000 and a perspective as to other issues SonicBlue is having with customer service on the Replay side. Not really news, but it should help to give us perspective on the pains that Rob & gang are going through.

Keep up the great work guys!

(fan flame)
Also, at the bottom of that thread there is mention that someone got their replay 3030 for $179--which is pretty stinking cheap for 30 hrs of record time and no lifetime fee....
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#41209 - 11/10/2001 18:29 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
can any one tell how the advertising skipping feature works. do they somehow know how long the ads are or does it just skip a certain amount of time ?

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#41210 - 11/10/2001 23:48 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: msaeger]
Nosferatu
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Registered: 24/08/2001
Posts: 344
Loc: France, Champagne
I do live in France and at least we can be Empeg owners but not
Tivo and Replay .

When will it be possible to buy those ?

When V2.0 will come up ...

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#41211 - 12/10/2001 16:45 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: msaeger]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
Posts: 3457
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
It works it out by things like black frames, silent audio, etc. It's spooky to see it in action!

Hugo



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#41212 - 12/10/2001 18:48 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
msaeger
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Registered: 23/09/2000
Posts: 3608
Loc: Minnetonka, MN
do you know if they are planning on selling these units in stores or just on-line

thanks for the info


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#41213 - 12/10/2001 20:15 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
It works it out by things like black frames, silent audio, etc. It's spooky to see it in action!

Does it use the "Commercial Advance" (tm) technology, or is it something that Sonic Blue developed on its own? Commercial Advance works by sensing the black frames between the programming and the beginning of the commercial breaks. How it determines whether a subsequent black frame is another commercial or resumption of programming, I do not know.

I have found the Commercial Advance feature on my VCR to be only about 85% reliable. That is, about 15% of the time it will not catch the beginning of a commercial break or it will miss programming thinking it is still in commercial.

Of course, since I got TiVo, I don't think I've used m VCR more than once or twice. TiVo does not have Commercial Advance or equivalent, and when I asked them, they said they never would -- apparently as a result of an agreement they made with the commercial broadcasters.

tanstaafl.



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#41214 - 12/10/2001 22:36 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: tanstaafl.]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
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Loc: San Francisco, CA
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Of course, since I got TiVo, I don't think I've used m VCR more than once or twice. TiVo does not have Commercial Advance or equivalent, and when I asked them, they said they never would -- apparently as a result of an agreement they made with the commercial broadcasters.




They might not CALL it that, BUT - 2.51 is coming out with this:
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Skip by Tick Marks:
You can now skip through a program faster than ever! Any time you're using Fast Forward or Rewind, you can press the ADVANCE button (below the Fast Forward button) to jump to the next tick mark on the green Status Bar. Press it again and you advance again to the next tick mark. Easy!





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#41215 - 13/10/2001 15:21 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: altman]
dids
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Registered: 29/09/1999
Posts: 101
Loc: Santa Monica, California, USA
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At least Tivo has a company that is 100% behind their product since their revenue depends on that product and that product alone.

It's better than to just have a range of mismatched products, experiment by throwing things out there and half-ass support it, and then killing it when it doesn't bring the revenue that you expected.

Sorry, I know this sounds probably worse that I what I mean by it but you have to admit that the early adopters for those very expensive PVRs are going to be VERY nervous considering SB's track record at trying things/buying people and then moving on when it doesn't work rather than having a real strategy and sticking to it.

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#41216 - 13/10/2001 16:51 Re: Poll - Empeg vs. Tivo [Re: dids]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
considering SB's track record at trying things/buying people and then moving on when it doesn't work rather than having a real strategy and sticking to it.

[sarcasm]
Really? SonicBlue has such a record? What products would you be talking about? Certainly not the RioCar...
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