Has anyone ever tried this, or have any info on what would be required or how hard it would be to install either the MK1, MK2 or the RioCar?

I haven't tried this myself, but I have a '68 Mustang.

I guess it depends on how you want to install it. The Mustang doesn't exactly have a normal DIN slot. I suppose you could try to craft your own bezel/frame so that the Empeg would fit in the factory slot, but I think that would be a total pain in the ass.

First, I'd recommend checking out the custom made stereos that are designed to fit in the factory stereo slot. Kenwood makes a bunch. I also believe Pioneer and Jensen even have ones too. I can get some links to these, if you'd like.

I'd contact the manufacturers and find out if any of the stereos support AUX-in. I find it pretty unlikely, but it's worth a shot. Otherwise, you'll probably have to run that stereo into the Empeg and let the Empeg be the primary head unit.

Now comes the other problem...where to mount the Empeg. My current stereo install (which was done by the previous owner) consists of the head unit just sitting on the hump between the two seats, directly under the dash. The owner put some velcro on the bottom of the sled to keep it in place. Not the nicest of solutions, but it works. A slightly better solution that I can think of off the top of my head is to get one of the "hump huggers" or other consoles that sit on the hump in between the two seats. Then, you could see about mounting the empeg into there.

Hope that helps.

Here's a pic of one of the Kenwood radios (model 501).

And it seems they make an empty bezel. If you're really good with your tools, I suppose you could try to trim the bezel so that the empeg could fit inside it.

oooo. That's pretty cool. If you took a dremmel to that, you could almost surely make the empeg fit in there. You might have to fit some mounting brackets to the back of the sled to secure it... but that would look damn nice. Go for it!

Here's my rendition of what it might look like...



I think I'm inspired to do this myself now...



It's only $49.95 from here:

ttp://www.restoremustangs.com/

Nice. You'd have to create a new back panel.. but some ABS plastic could make a quick job of that.

You could go one of two ways...modify the panel in the bezel to match the empeg, or modify the empeg fascia to match the panel. The problem is that the black in the radio bezel matches the rest of the Mustang trim. So, most likely I'd want to modify the empeg fascia. I could either go the paint way (like I've seen a few people do), or do the full custom fascia. I wonder if anybody would be interested in making one for me...The color and texture is referred to as "black camera case".

If anybody is interested, here's a link to a few pics of my car. I've since buffed out the oxidation, so the color looks pretty good again. Still tons of work to do on it, though. First thing to do is get a new engine, followed by a new top.

http://www.pbase.com/svferris/my_mustang_project_car

That's a long way since the 1-speaker AM radio that was in my 71' 302 Grande Mustang.

Nice cars guys!

Sfverris.. you rock my friend..
I have a '66 I have been restoring..and have three empeg's..
One of each version, the MKI, MKII, and the RioCar.
I have one of the kenwood stereos in the car right now, and want to put one of these in there.
I really appreciate your help on this, now the other question would be, how to wire it up and connect it to the factory speaker system, or should I just install a new speaker system?

I don't think it's worth trying to wire it to the "factory" system. The "factory" system (in my car at least) consists of one speaker in the center of the dash. I have to be honest that it sounds pretty good for being over 30 years old. Besides the speaker, I think there's one small power cable and an antenna. That's it. Nothing to really run an Empeg on.



My suggestion is to install an amp under one of the front seats (this is how mine is). You can then run the wires under the carpet or along the side of the car to the front. A couple different companies (including Pioneer) make some nice speakers which install as kick panels under the dash. This will give you good sound without having to do any modifications.



Here's a couple of websites where you can get Mustang parts:



http://www.ilovemymustang.com/

http://www.orangecoastonline.com/mustang.htm

http://www.restoremustangs.com/

http://www.karmustang.com/default.html

http://www.larrysmustang.com/

http://www.l-i-mustang.com/index.html

http://www.mustangsunlimited.com/



Quite a few of these will send you a free catalog.

sweet...
this should help in the conversion and conversation process..:)
you are about 24 right?

Yeah, 24.

If you have any questions, feel free to drop me a message.

Where are you on your restoration? The quick and dirty on my car is that I got it when I was 15. We spent a year restoring it, doing little things like cleaning up the interior, painting the engine compartment, rebuilding the carb and cleaning up the trunk. The engine ran pretty good, so we left that alone. I drove it for about 5 years while I was in high school and college. The engine started going, so I stopped driving it and garaged it.

Now, I want to start by getting the engine rebuilt so that the car is driveable again. I recently started it up and drove it around. Wasn't running too bad...think I might have to try driving it some more. But, it's not registered, so I don't want to go much farther than my parking lot or down to the gas station. After the engine, it needs a new top, interior and paint job. I suppose I should start saving up money...but things like the empeg come along and *poof*, there goes my money.

yeah, that's cool, I am 25 about to be 26 in april...
I have had my mustang for about 3 years, and the darn thing keeps blowing the straight 6 motors.
Just recently in fact.
So, we are taking it from a stock 6 to a v8, converting the whole trainy and suspension system..
It's almost daunting what my oldest brother and I have to do to it, but it should be worth it in the long run..
I think I may even have some pictures up on the web somewhere..(note to self..look...)
I will be taking pics if I decide to put the empeg in..
anyway....

Ahh, you have a straight 6 too, huh? Mine is the straight 6, 200 cu. in. It's the stock motor. Since it's a convertible, I'll probably keep it stock. Not really meant to be a racing car or anything. Plus, I get a discount on insurance having the 6.

I've heard it's not too hard converting from the straight 6 to a 289 or even 302 V8. Some people said you have to do the suspension system, while others said it was optional. But, I think it's good you're doing everything. You'll have to let me know how it goes.

Only conversion I'm considering is a power convertible top. But, it runs like $1000 to do the kit, and I don't think it's worth it. I'll just have to learn to put the top down properly without pinching it and causing holes.

lord, I could right a manuscript with what he and I have done to this thing..
We have had two of those engines blow up on me, while i was driving, first one, the radiator failed, the second one..(at the beginning of this month...) had the oil pump fail..
totally sucks..
as far as the suspension..it depends on what the car came with to begin with..
if you have disc brakes and something else, you don't have to do anything.
if you have the standard drums, you have to change them if you want disk brakes.
the rear end also has to be changed to handle the higher torgue off the engine and tranny..
(and to think i am not even a mechanic)
he..anyway..

Gotta love these engines...

I had a water pump go bad on mine. Was driving down the freeway in traffic. Going maybe 20 miles an hour. All of a sudden there was a loud grinding sound followed by tons of smoke/steam coming from my hood. I quickly pulled off onto the shoulder (I was right next to it anyways).

Basically, my water pump blew...and since the fan is connected to the water pump, it shot the fan straight into my radiator. The fan was spinning fast enough that it basically cut a circle into the radiator, causing the entire contents to spill out all over the ground. Was pretty crazy...

I had the first one blow on the 395 bridge crossing from miami into south beach.
Then the last one, at the beginning of this month, I was 2 miles from my brothers house..
Needless to say, the v8 is in perfect time..

You should see the pictures I just got developed from when the last straight 6 engine blew...I will try to scan them tonight or tomorrow and post them online...
I will also post the info when I get the empeg unit in the car.:)

I guess I need to post those pics soon, huh?

Anytime...no rush.

Here are a couple of "bad" pics of my mustang..yeah I know I am slow..

and here again

not my car..
but god..

Cool. Looks pretty nice.

I've been working on my car a bit recently. I'm trying to find the source of a knock and overall bad performance (rough idling and whatnot). I pulled out the radiator, fan, pulley, etc. to get at my timing chain because my Dad thought I screwed it up when I replaced it years ago. Looked fine to me when I opened it up, though. The two dots lined up on the gears. So, now I'm going to pull the oil pan and take a look into the engine. I recently removed the head and everything looked fine. The rods all looked good. Maybe a view from the bottom will give a new perspective on the situation.

I think my Dad's trying to push me into rebuilding the engine myself. It would save me quite a bit of money, but I'm not sure I want to do it on my own. I got a quote of $2500 to have it done by a professional Mustang place.

So, I'm not sure what to do. If I find something obviously wrong when I pull the oil pan, I can try fixing it. But, most likely the engine just needs to get rebuilt.

If I find something obviously wrong when I pull the oil pan, I can try fixing it.

Not a chance.

The only things you could find wrong by pulling the pan would be of a sufficiently serious nature that removing the engine and completely disassembling it would be required.

tanstaafl.

If I find something obvious like a bad rod, piston, etc., couldn't that get replaced without having to rebuild the entire engine?

If I find something obvious like a bad rod, piston, etc., couldn't that get replaced without having to rebuild the entire engine?

No.

If you find a "bad rod", you are really talking about a bad connecting rod bearing. This will inevitably have damaged the crankshaft. To repair the crankshaft it must be removed and taken to a machine shop for re-surfacing. Removing the crankshaft requires complete disassembly of the engine. (OK, technically you could remove the crankshaft by leaving the upper parts of the connecting rods and the pistons in place (with the engine out of the car, of course) but no qualified mechanic would do so except under the most unusual circumstances.)

The only way you would find a "bad piston" is by removing the cylinder heads and the oil pan, and removing each piston/connecting rod assembly. If the piston were bad enough to be knocking, it will have inevitably have damaged the cylinder wall. Repairing this would require complete disassembly of the engine and taking the engine block to a machine shop for re-boring. This will also require all new (oversize) pistons.

The only way you would ever replace a single piston or connecting rod bearing is if you planned on reassembling the engine, filling it full of high viscosity oil, and then immediately selling it somebody who lived at least three states away from you.

There is no mechanical failure requiring removal of the oil pan that does not also require complete disassembly of the engine. If you are going to go to that much time and effort, it would be foolish not to do a complete overhaul of the engine at the same time.

I don't know how to say this without sounding like I am a snob talking down to you... but if you don't know this kind of information, you should probably not be thinking about taking your engine apart without an experienced mechanic at your side to offer guidance.

tanstaafl.

The good thing about my mustang, is I am finally putting front disc brakes in. Plus I found a site that documents the conversion to rear disc brakes as well.
Sadly enough, the original stock inline 6 motor will never touch this machine again. BTW, the V8 works great. My brother had a problem with the drive shaft being a tad too long from the 67 falcon. It's now cut, sandblasted and painted.
From what he has been telling me it's running phenomenally.
Here I am stuck in atlanta, while it's at south beach almost every day. Oh the tragedy.

I'm surprised I didn't see this thread before. I am a major Mustang fan and before I got my "luxury mustang" (Lincoln Mark VII LSC) I used to own a 67 Mustang GT.

The bezel your showing here is for a 67/68 and won't fit his car.
The 64.5-66 models had the radio up higher and mounted in the actual metal of the dash, not in a bezel that then itself mounted to the dash. It was more like the cars from the 50's.

They do make a custom patch panel for modern DIN radio that can be sectioned into the dash. It's a little bit of work but it will look like it belongs there though.