This thread has taken an ugly turn.

I'm not telling you this Stefano, this is for everyone else... I've eaten Pizza (and derivatives) in a few cities in Italy. But apart from that, I also know a bit about food in general.

Mozzarella - *REAL* mozzarella, isn't the typical "cheese" most Americans would think of. First, you could be talking about buffalo milk. Next you could be talking about FRESH. Not that slab in a plastic shrink-wrap that looks like any other Kraft product. The US also doesn't have some of the cheese selection available in other countries due to its pasturization requirements.

In Toronto you can get Pizza at any number of places that is pretty much the same as you could get in many places in Italy. There are all the same garbage fast-food places as in the US of course.

Damn, in Firenze (Florence), I had a calzone with an entire mozzarella inside (at least the size of a baseball). And that was my second plate. My first was an enormous platter of gnochi (mmm!) with a side of beans (hey, you have to have them when you're in the region). Needless to say, I didn't finish the calzone.

If you want to sample the best foods from all nationalities in one place, there is absolutely no other place on earth to do it other than New York City. The second best for variety would probably be Toronto. You can find "authentic" in some US cities, but you have to look very carefully. Even in NYC. And certainly in Boston (though their Italian neighborhood has some excellent restaurants). Toronto has a fresh-enough supply of immigrants that you can get pretty much exactly what they're making in whatever country, the same way it's being made that same month.

Oh, and in Italy (or just plain in Italian), if you want anything similar to American Pepperoni, you're looking for a type of "sausage". So your best bet is to ask for that: "salsiccia." But why bother. You can get so many other things. Just remember, when in Italy, KEEP IT SIMPLE. Italian food is about simplicity. They're just going to look at you funny if you want everything but the kitchen sink in a dish.

Bruno

I pity the fool that eats any of that Prego or Ragu crap.

Why do you hate the US? Don't deny it either. It's obvious that you despise American culture. I'm not talking about what you said specifically in this post but your attitude in general. Is there a reason?

Maybe because the US is very hate-able. I don't see any reason why he shouldn't hold us in utter contempt.

That's OK, though, since Canada's not a real country anyway.

But for what?

Arrogance. Look into your own soul, my son.

And just how am I arrogant?

And just how am I arrogant?

No, he was answering your question. Americans in general, and pretty much our whole nation, is quite arrogant.

Don't you just love so-called 'Americans' who hate America?

If anyone doesn't like it they can leave.

//matt

Hey, I never said I hated America. I just said I understand how others could. We can be really irritating sometimes.

I think that there is a perceived arrogance so some people begin to resent americans. But I believe that your average working american is just like the guy busting his ass in Italy, England, Uzbekistan, or whatever. I think gratefull would better describe many americans. Look at your neighbor; is he an arrogant prick or just your average joe?

Americans in general, and pretty much our whole nation, is quite arrogant

[heavy sarcasm] and apparently some Canadians too. [/heavy sarcasm]

//matt

Arrogant prick, but, then, so am I.

Hey, I never said I hated America

yeah, but did you look at the link? Seriously, I'm starting to think about moving, it looks pretty good.

//matt

Actually, I was calling him arrogant. Most citizens of the United States are, myself included. We're brought up in a very isolated society, where we think the only differences we really bear are the differences between a Southerner and a Yankee. This is a remarkably limited view of the world, and leads to seeing everyone else as backward, or at least forgetting that they might have different viewpoints. I try to contain it, but fail often. Yz33d (what is that supposed to mean, BTW?) falls into it in almost every post. I first thought he was a troll, but his continued existence here would seem to indicate otherwise. He seems to honestly believe that everything that comes out of his mouth is of utmost importance, and seems unable to comprehend others' viewpoints. That, to me, is the definition of arrogance.

Then again, I assume that you have any interest in hearing this, which you don't.

You're point is hypocritical. While you don't want to hear anything I have to say you claim that I don't want to hear other people's opinions, which is untrue. You just imagine the arrogance when you read my posts, perhaps going back to The Future of Empeg.

It isn't obvious what Yz33d means?

You don't seem to have anything to say, yet you think you do. That is my point. The other people on this board are too nice to call you out by name (it's been done pseudo-anonymously before), and I was, but I'm tired of holding my tongue. The vast majority of your posts are very self-serving -- you remind me of the bad comic who laughs at his own jokes while no one else does. I'm not interested in what you have to say because you have nothing useful or interesting to offer; at least you haven't shown me that you do, and you've racked up quite a few posts. And I didn't say that you didn't want to hear others' opinions, but it's true that you seem to only want to hear them so that you can either reassure your own unreasonable self-assuredness, or merely end up backpedalling.

I'm not really interested in this pissing match. It's pointless and only serves my own base interests, but I was tired of not saying anything. I just really wish that I had a plonk file.

And it's not at all obvious to me what ``Yz33d'' means. Maybe I'm just not up on 31337-sp33k, but google returns no references to ``yz33d'', and the only references it has to ``yzeed'' are in Arabic languages, and given your earlier stated prejudices against American aliens, I'm going to guess that that is not an appropriate etymology.

By the way, ``Your point is hypocritical ...''.

Bitt, you're letting him bait you. Don't.

Agreed, I forget how many times I have got half way through writing a reasoned reply to our friend here, before realising there was no point and binning it...

We just hold everyone in contempt including ourselves. It's very fair that way.

Rob

Americans in general, and pretty much our whole nation, is quite arrogant.

They is quite ungrammatical, too. Boo yakasha.

Peter

Jeeez Yz33d! There's Patriotism and there's ... .... there's ... ... .. well I can't quite find a word for what you have.
Hyperpatriotism. There hasn't been one thread you've read where someone has a friendly dig at America (Which should incidentally only be referred to as United States if you're talking about the northern bit below Canada). You wouldn't last two minutes in a Aussie pub if you were an Australian Citizen. Someone makes a dig at your homeland and you take it as a personal attack.
Lighten up a bit and roll with the jokes. In 2.5 years on this board I have never seen so many flare ups. You're refusal to accept the bad points of you homeland along with the good points is (IMO) disturbing.
I personally wouldn't want to live any place but Australia at the moment. But I don't defend it's actions, customs and history to the hilt.

I personally wouldn't want to live any place but Australia at the moment. But I don't defend it's actions, customs and history to the hilt.

I should hope not - you guys were responsible for Neighbours!

Rob

And all that sheep rustling, which is how they ended up being sent there in the first place.

British justice has always been so reasonable, steal a sheep, get shipped to the other side of the world for the rest of your life.

On the other hand - the Minogue sisters - yum...

Sorry, we are still on the Edible thread, aren't we?

I know it isn't very purist, but I make my own pizzas (yup, including rolling my own dough) and am happy to put almost anything on them: Chillies, as many as 8 different cheeses, beans, sausages, chicken, beef etc etc etc

Some taste terrible, but you have to test these things. Most end up being very good. And filling.

Never tried Kylie on a pizza though, could be messy.

On the other hand - the Minogue sisters - yum...

Kylie has a sister?! Oooooooo.... Is she out of beta?

Kylie has a sister?! Oooooooo.... Is she out of beta?

Very much so! She's 31. I'm sure she could still benefit from some further testing, however.

http://www.danniminogue.com/biography.htm

yikes! droool...

I can't figure out if I like the "Can't Get You Outta My Head" song because of the video or not.. but I can't get that damn SONG outta my head! Her sister is much hotter in my opinoin... any good music? Or are these more of the "look but don't listen" variety ala Britney Spears?

Pizza.

This BBS strays more than my 89' Escort with a bad alignment!

I kinda like some Kylie Minogue tunes, even when not accompanied by a video. "Breathe" is a nice dance-ish tune that I've spun at parties on occasion. I would say that either her or her producers have more talent than Britney or her producers.

As for looks, you can't really compare, because the Minogue's are in their 30's and Britney is 18. I personally would not kick Danni, Kylie, or Britney out of my bed.

Well then, I am sorry.