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#80352 - 13/03/2002 18:55 Two major bugs in Hijack 239
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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Loc: Seattle, WA
1) The altered code for the headlight-sense is not working right.

When I turn on my headlights, the backlit buttons go completely black and stay that way. Then the display dims, but then pops back to full brightness after a couple of seconds and stays that way.

Turning off my headlights does not restore the backlit buttons to the proper brightness.

2) The Tone controls don't come back after a reboot.

When I go into the tone controls in the car and adjust bass +6db it sounds correct. But then I turn off my ignition, go in to pick up my daughter from day care (player sleeps for five seconds, then shuts off completely). Then I come back out and start my ignition. Player boots up, but the bass is not boosted, it sounds flat. Then I go into the Hijack menu and see that the bass appears to be set to +6db. I give the knob a slight tweak and the bass pops in suddenly.

Note that this is WITHOUT me doing any funny changes to EQ presets, I haven't touched the EQ during this whole time.
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#80353 - 13/03/2002 19:03 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
theory
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Loc: Victoria, BC, Canada
Did you notice a popping sound when adjusting the bass tone?

When I go from anything + anything to [off] there's a pretyt loud poping sound. samthing happens when going from - anything to [off]. I believe this is also a problem with treble too.

It could be some funky thing with my amp, but I thought I'd ask around before I start tweaking

-B

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#80354 - 13/03/2002 19:14 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: theory]
tfabris
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Yes, I got the pops, too. I thought this was a standard side-effect of messing with the channels in the DSP. For instance, there was a long-standing bug where you would get a pop when going from 2-channel mode to 4-channel mode (and would cause a pop at bootup time for anyone with their EQ set to 4-channel in the car).
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#80355 - 13/03/2002 19:24 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
genixia
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Uuuh. The patch that I gave Mark did restore the settings, but I know he made some changes to optimise my code, so it may have gotten broken.

I never got any pops either. It only happens going to or from [Off] ?

Check that the underlying eqs bands 9 and 10 are set at 0dB. When you turn the eq to Off, the original bands are restored.

I'll look into this though. Keep the feedback coming

[edit]
Aah, just reread the inital description. The value is restored correctly, but the tone isn't applied until you tweak it....

Ensure that you have notify=1 in your config.ini. Because of the way that the tone controls overload the players eq, the initialisation has to happen after the player has started. The only way that Hijack knows if the player is started is through the notify code.

Tony, can you FAQify this? I have a feeling that it'll crop up a few times...


Edited by genixia (13/03/2002 19:29)
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#80356 - 13/03/2002 19:34 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: genixia]
tfabris
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Ensure that you have notify=1 in your config.ini.

Ah, that must have been the reason, then. I don't have notify=1.

Tony, can you FAQify this?

Not my job. That's Loren's baileywick.
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#80357 - 13/03/2002 19:58 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
genixia
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Is there a FAQ about who's responsible for the various areas of the FAQs?
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#80358 - 13/03/2002 19:59 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: genixia]
tfabris
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"The producers wish it be known that those responsible for the FAQing have been FAQed."
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#80359 - 13/03/2002 20:00 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
genixia
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I wonder if the pops might be related to the soon-to-be-fixed channel lock bug?
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#80360 - 13/03/2002 20:04 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: genixia]
tfabris
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I wonder if the pops might be related to the soon-to-be-fixed channel lock bug?

Um, no. The channel lock bug fix will not alter the behavior of the pops.

I can't tell you how I know this, just take my word for it.
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#80361 - 13/03/2002 21:04 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: genixia]
loren
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Yeap! the very first entry of the Hijack section mentions that i'm the FAQer. =] I'll add it tonight.
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#80362 - 13/03/2002 21:11 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
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In reply to:

"The producers wish it be known that those responsible for the FAQing have been FAQed."




A Møøse once bit my sister...

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#80363 - 13/03/2002 21:26 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
hybrid8
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Registered: 12/11/2001
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Loc: Toronto, CANADA
Can we all just FAQin get along?

The $15 FAQ-Sniper I mentioned in another thread will automatically make a special highlight around the names of the FAQ Masters too. It will also have an option to prevent someone from accidentally FAQing the FAQ master, just in case.

Bruno

RTFFAQYSMF
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#80364 - 14/03/2002 00:01 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: hybrid8]
loren
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I added a ton of crap to the Hijack FAQ... all of which is documented in the changelog. Let me know if there's anything that's glaringly missing from the FAQ these days... as i feel like i'm caught up... but i know there's something missing... (other than a better HTTP entry...)
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#80365 - 14/03/2002 00:33 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: matthew_k]
ClownBurner
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Loc: Irvine, CA USA
The producers would like it known that the people responsible for FAQing the people who made the FAQ, have just been FAQed. This post has been completed at the last minute, and at great expense, in an entirely different style.

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#80366 - 14/03/2002 05:47 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: ClownBurner]
fusto
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Wi nøt trei a høliday in Sweden this yër?
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#80367 - 14/03/2002 07:11 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: fusto]
guardian__J
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Registered: 28/01/2002
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Loc: MI, USA
You guys better be careful...
I've seen Rob imposing Taxes on people for quoting Monty Python.
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#80368 - 14/03/2002 07:27 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: guardian__J]
SE_Sport_Driver
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How do you do the o with a line through it?
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#80369 - 14/03/2002 07:33 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
SE_Sport_Driver
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We need a FAQ for jemplode too....

(not it!)
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#80370 - 14/03/2002 08:04 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: guardian__J]
tonyc
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Registered: 27/06/1999
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Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
You guys better be careful...
I've seen Rob imposing Taxes on people for quoting Monty Python.


Yeah but what happened the last time the Brits tried to impose unfair taxes on the American people? Eh?
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#80371 - 14/03/2002 10:22 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Ensure that you have notify=1 in your config.ini.
Ah, that must have been the reason, then. I don't have notify=1.

This was NOT it. I added [output] notify=1 to my config.ini, I now see the FIDs in the Vital Signs screen so I know it's working, but the bass increase is still NOT PRESENT in the output after a reboot in the car.

Note that it works correctly after a reboot in the house, it's only in the car that I notice this behavior.

And mark, what about the dimmer code? I have a long trip at night to take this weekend.
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#80372 - 14/03/2002 10:52 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
I'll put out v240 with the dimmer change reverted.

Genixia is responsible for the bass/treble stuff -- I did just now check to verify that the tone logic is being invoked at boot in DC/Car mode, and yes it is. But for me at least, bass/treble don't seem to have any effect whatsoever in DC/Car mode, MOST OF THE TIME..

So for now, I guess tone controls are an AC/Home feature.

Cheers

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#80373 - 14/03/2002 11:06 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: mlord]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
So for now, I guess tone controls are an AC/Home feature.

Too bad, because the car is where I'd want to use them the most.
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#80374 - 14/03/2002 11:30 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: guardian__J]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
Tony started it.

And anways, the empeg tax is enough. The fex ex man is delivering my backup today and I could bareley afford the first one. Soon enough I know I'm going to need a rio reciver too. And a tuner module. What more can I give? Blood?

Matthew

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You guys better be careful...
I've seen Rob imposing Taxes on people for quoting Monty Python.



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#80375 - 14/03/2002 11:34 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: matthew_k]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hey, I didn't quote directly. I implied via a parody reference. Parody is considered "fair use" and is protected. Therefore, I'm exempt from the tax in this case.
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#80376 - 14/03/2002 11:35 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: mlord]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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Aaaaaaaaaaarrghh. I need a new drive cable to test this binary. Mine died yeaterday.

Ok, I know I can get a replacement from support, but that's going to take a few days. Is it a standard laptop cable or is it empeg-spec'd ??
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#80377 - 14/03/2002 11:37 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: matthew_k]
fusto
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Registered: 27/12/2001
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"What more can I give? Blood?"

Actually you could. And uh... other stuff too.
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#80378 - 14/03/2002 12:37 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: genixia]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14496
Loc: Canada
Try the other connector on your current cable. Usually only the middle connector is bad.

There's no such thing as a "standard laptop cable", but any 2.5" IDE drive cable will work in a pinch. All laptop makers, like SB, use custom cables of just the right length/bends for their units.

Cheers

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#80379 - 14/03/2002 12:52 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: mlord]
ellweber
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 156
Loc: Saratoga, CA, USA
Mark,

Tone controls work for me with 239. I know the Empeg thinks it is in the car because I am unable to Restore Visuals with any combination of the Hijack "Restore..." functions enabled!

What additional info from my setup would be helpful?

Mk2a/10GB/Beta11/239
Equalizers set flat, volume fixed at -10 db

Lynn

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#80380 - 14/03/2002 12:59 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: ellweber]
mlord
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Loc: Canada
>Genixia is responsible for the bass/treble stuff

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#80381 - 14/03/2002 13:43 Re: Two major bugs in Hijack 239 [Re: mlord]
genixia
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Registered: 08/02/2002
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Hmm. 60GB, both disks present.

So, I've discovered that it appears to be the motherboard end. With the carriage out, if I push lightly on that end, it finds both disks, and will continue to do so. As soon as I try to put the carriage back in, just the slight flexing of the cable seems to unseat that connectot enough to cause the problem.

At least I can download the new kernel though, and do some investigation.
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