North American english

Posted by: maczrool

North American english - 17/01/2002 13:05

I don't know if this has been covered before, but is there a way to modify the empeg so that it displays north american english instead of the british spelling of such words as "equaliser," "synchronising," visulisations," etc.? In the US we all the letters in the alphabet, including the 'z'.

Would this be possible with a kernel hack or is this in the player's software? Has anyone tried? I'd much prefer that the player display "Equalizer" over "Equaliser."

Stu
Posted by: pgrzelak

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 13:11

In the US we all the letters in the alphabet, including the 'z'.

HAHAHAH!

Try telling that to most telephone keypad manufacturers...

That is actually a slight pet peeve of mine with the RioRemote - in the US, most Q & Z keypads put the letters at 7 & 9 respectively. The RioRemote uses the 0...

- Paul Grzelak
Posted by: tfabris

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 13:15

You could locate the strings in the player binary and hack them yourself, I suppose. You'd lose your fixes every time you upgraded.

Personally, I like seeing the original spellings.

Best thread on this subject is here:

Me: "You forget: It is we who have the accents. Remember where our language came from."

Rob: "Yeah, and if you're not careful we might ask for it back! "

Jambo: "Sounds good. Just meet us at Bunker Hill in Lexington, Massachusetts and we'll let you take it back. Oh, and bring the red coats. :-)"
Posted by: jarob10

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 13:18

Now you know how it feels !!!!

You dont know how annoying it is to have to replace 'z' with 's' on every M$ spellcheck product.

I say leave things as they are as a mark of repect to the true English language


(Only joking by the way ....)
Posted by: Chao

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 13:43

Whats wrong with that?

I don't care either way, Color, Colour, Gray, Grey, it's all english...

Of course, I live in Miami, where things are most times in Spanish, so I welcome traditional English spellings
Posted by: tonyc

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 14:56

If you English are such purists why didn't you stick with us with the English measurement system? The U.S. now stands alone supporting all your damn inches, barrels, furlongs, and slugs. You let something written by *THE FRENCH* dominate the entire world. Now THAT's simply unacceptable!
Posted by: Captain_Chaos

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 15:00

Isn't the US officially also on the S.I.?

You have 2 liter soda bottles, at least that's a good start... :-)

/Pepijn
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 15:07

Ooh! No! Sacrilege!

You still see some old road signs occasionally that have ``km''s as well as ``mi''s back from the dark days of the late 70s when there was a real push for that to happen. But it's been left behind. I haven't heard anyone talk about metric conversion in years.
Posted by: Yang

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 15:07

Because they realized a long time ago that it sucked, but we, in our blind faith, kept on using it. Only now are we getting close to using both, and given annother 50 years, we might be using metric only.

And speaking of standards, does the Empeg use the Kibibyte/Mebibite/Gibibyte standard? I would guess not, with everyone throwing GB around.. Link.
Posted by: andy

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 15:26

You see, they can't even spell litre...
Posted by: AlphaWolf

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 16:23

As long as there are architects in the US, S.I. will live on. We (speaking for architects, since i'm not quite one, but have worked as a cad tech. for the past 6 years) will never change. And the US as a whole will never change until they start to teach it to kids in elementary schools. Of course they would have to teach both english and metric units. And once they start doing that, it'll take at least 2 generations to get used to it. But if it's not used in everyday life, then people start to forget metric. So that would mean that all the street signs would have to change, milage markers, packaging, etc. It would be way too expensive and time consuming. And americans are cheap and lazy, so in short, it's not gonna happen. Ever :~)
Posted by: Yang

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 16:36

I know it's used in the medical profession now. As more an more industries start adopting metric measurements over Standard ones, then it'll be taught at earlier stages in the educational system.. The average burger-flipper doesn't need to know metric, so it'll be a while before it gets down to the elementary school level.
Posted by: bonzi

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 17:16

So that would mean that all the street signs would have to change, milage markers, packaging, etc. It would be way too expensive and time consuming. And americans are cheap and lazy, so in short, it's not gonna happen. Ever :~)

Err, how much did it cost to add all those nutritional labels that very helpfully state that a serving of sugar contains zero ounces of sodium?
Posted by: bonzi

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 17:19

But it's been left behind. I haven't heard anyone talk about metric conversion in years.

...except for those NASA guys who lost their Mars probe because somebody measured speed in furlongs per fortnight or something like that...
Posted by: amaximow

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 17:41

bahhh! litres, pints. Just give me a 6-pack; that's a measurement we can all understand...
--Andrew
Posted by: msaeger

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 18:19

or bigmac's
Posted by: ineedcolor

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 18:24

Hey! I like them old ways, you see, my car gets 75 furlongs to the hogshead of distilled spirits....of course that's with 20 stone of cargo only
Posted by: hybrid8

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 19:11

MS Have "ENGLISH" spelling dictionaries in addition to "AMERICAN" ones. I think I have multiple dictionaries for all my spell-check capable products.

Bruno
Posted by: hybrid8

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 19:15

Please be correct when making this type of request. What you want is "American" spelling instead of "English." North America also includes Canada - and up here we write in English, not American.

The only time I write American is when preparing text for a mostly-US audience, such as product ReadMe files, etc.

I love the fact that words in the empeg software are not incorrectly written.

Bruno
Posted by: wfaulk

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 20:20

I was taught Metric/SI/whatever in elementary school twenty years ago. Didn't seem to stick then....
Posted by: muzza

Re: North American english - 17/01/2002 21:17

Admittedly it was many years ago now, 1966, when Australia changed to metric. Dollars & cents not Pounds, Shillings & Pence; metres, litres etc. If a whole country wants to change they will. I dont see the drive for it at the moment, and the rest of the world tollerates it and compensates.

what we all really need is the decimal day!

Can you imagine the whole world agreeing to migrate to a different single time standard?
Posted by: Roger

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 02:16

But America also includes Brazil, Chile, Argentina, etc., etc.. .
Posted by: Anonymous

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 03:04

Who do you think would win in a fight between an average American man and an average British man?

What about the baddest American against the baddest Briton? Lets see, we got Mr. T, Hulk Hogan, Rocky Balboa, George W. Bush.........who's Britain got?
Posted by: drakino

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 03:29

Expensive comapired to my state spending tax dollars to put up .25, .5 and .75 mile markers along the major highways?

The best thing would be a law passed saying the US is switching over to the "standard" finally. And include in it a timeline of major conversion milestones, including a period where both are used. If most of europe can convert to one currency, then the US should have no huge problems converting measurements.
Posted by: peter

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 03:40

What about the baddest American against the baddest Briton? Lets see, we got Mr. T, Hulk Hogan, Rocky Balboa, George W. Bush.........who's Britain got?

Vinnie Jones, Anne Robinson, Michael Caine in Get Carter, Lennox Lewis, and Margaret Thatcher?

Peter
Posted by: Roger

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 04:31

It _can_ be done piecemeal. Weights and measures (except for pints of beer) are now supposed to be metric in the UK.

Metric's better -- a single measure got bigger .

Distances and speeds are still in miles and mph. Investing in changing road signs will be a major issue. One which will actually cost the government real money. With the weights and measures, the supermarkets bore the brunt.

Of course, persuading people to drive on the wrong side of the road will take a lot more effort.
Posted by: Roger

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 04:35

Terence Stamp in The Limey?
Posted by: tms13

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 05:18

In reply to:

Of course, persuading people to drive on the wrong side of the road will take a lot more effort.


Maybe we could get some of the cyclists here in Cambridge to teach us.

(Yes, I cycle in Cambridge, but on the left and with lights...)
Posted by: tms13

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 05:20

In reply to:

Of course, persuading people to drive on the wrong side of the road will take a lot more effort.


I heard that it's to be done in a gradual manner. Coaches and lorries in 2005; cars, vans and minibuses a year later, and two-wheelers the year after that.

Posted by: Captain_Chaos

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 05:48

But it's been left behind. I haven't heard anyone talk about metric conversion in years.

...except for those NASA guys who lost their Mars probe because somebody measured speed in furlongs per fortnight or something like that...


...or the Air Canada flight that almost crashed because the fuelers had mistaken kilos for pounds. It's a pretty amazing story. I once saw a TV-movie based on it, and thought it was a bad movie full of unbelievable coincidences, one of the worst clones of the standard Hollywood disaster movie, but then I heard it was a true story. A prime example of truth being stranger than fiction...

/Pepijn
Posted by: Captain_Chaos

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 05:54

Because they realized a long time ago that it sucked, but we, in our blind faith, kept on using it. Only now are we getting close to using both, and given annother 50 years, we might be using metric only.

...or at least by the time of Star Trek TNG...

/Pepijn
Posted by: hybrid8

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 09:34

"United States of..." Smart-ass.

If we want to get picky, there's also Central/Latin America.

Bruno
Posted by: grgcombs

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 09:37

Not that this discussion should be posted here (try off-topic), but take any number of those Brits from "Snatch" and they'd be able to eat my lunch for sure. Mr. Desert Eagle Point 5-0!

Greg
Posted by: grgcombs

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 09:39

Homer - "Psshh. English. Who needs that? I'm never going to England!"

Greg
Posted by: grgcombs

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 09:44

They taught me the metric system, but gave up when they realized we're too stoopid to uncode the S.I. system from our genetics ...

or something.
Posted by: Tim

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 10:19

Hell, don't piss them off. They had enough criminals to start up a prison colony on a continent for God's sake...
Posted by: tfabris

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 12:31

but take any number of those Brits from "Snatch" and they'd be able to eat my lunch for sure.

Yeah, I was about to respond with the same thing: The entire cast of "Snatch", or perhaps "Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels".

Great flicks.
Posted by: altman

Re: North American english - 18/01/2002 18:05

A gun for show, a knife for a pro

Hugo
Posted by: hybrid8

Re: North American english - 19/01/2002 13:07

I'd rank the service of Air Canada somewhere in-line with budget airlines of the third world. What a complete POS. The worst flights I have ever been on (in terms of service and quality of the airplane) were the two AC flights I made last week.

The flight crews in BOTH directions were far more interested in chatting about their own little lives and squables than actually paying any type of attention to their passengers.

And don't get me started on the pathetic safety video on the miniscule monitors. And why having a second official language means undermining the service to English speaking travelers.

Bruno
Posted by: mlord

Re: North American english - 19/01/2002 14:10

Speak for yourself, yankee. The top half of North America (we cannucks) prefers English. And the lower quarter of North America mostly prefers Spanish. I believe it's just the folks from the narrow middle section of the continent that have trouble spelling words like colour, think a football is an oversized avacodo, and suffer from major hangups over sex and guns.
Posted by: Chao

Re: North American english - 19/01/2002 14:15

"suffer from major hangups over sex"

Excepting for the oral majority, I what we say and what we do are usually very different
Posted by: mandiola

Re: North American english - 19/01/2002 14:18

Hey shouldn't you be off programming Hijackv137? hehe j/k. I guess the saying goes "tamateo, tamAto". Language to me is all the same thing as long as everyone just understands what your getting at. Color, Colour... same thing .
One last thing (totaly off the language subject).. I noticed today and last night how one little office being networked can turn into the whole building. hehe, i have to return monday to install a new router and connect about 4 more computers.. uhhh just let me finish my 5months left of highschool before im thrown into slavery.. Well now I have a little free time to work on empegweb. hopefully i dont get any more calls. I guess now I have money for a new server, a belkin kvm switch, and gps for my empeg... ahhh what a day.

-Greg
Posted by: jane

Re: North American english - 20/01/2002 05:17

I have only travelled a couple of times with Air Canada,
And I must say I am impressed. They had much better
service than both Sabena and SAS which I used on
the same trip.

And excelent breakfast.

Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)
Posted by: jane

Re: North American english - 20/01/2002 05:18

Ebenezer Scrooge... Jack the Ripper...
Posted by: bonzi

Re: North American english - 20/01/2002 05:22

6-pack of 1/3l, pint or 1/2l cans?
Posted by: bonzi

Re: North American english - 20/01/2002 05:29

Yes, one continent for actual prisoners (those having been caught), and another for fugitives and an occasional landless noble
Posted by: Yang

Re: North American english - 20/01/2002 09:05

Or you could call them refugees from an oppressive tyrant.