Hmm, I've never liked the non direct empeg talk in general (MP3 ripping, etc) as it tends to make the relevant empeg info in there sink down quickly. What about creating a new category titled "Non-Empeg software" or something to discuss the topics like that? They seem to be common enough to justify it.

Settling on a place for all the 3rd party empeg software discussion might be a good idea as well.