Peter, good comments. Even though I might see some of your points in a different light, it's still nice to see someone get a little fired up without taking pot-shots.

One thing I'd like to point out is that France and Russia have the most to lose over oil. After the Persian Gulf war, Iraqi law states that Iraqi oil can not be sold to the US (and maybe the UK?). So, it all gets sold to Russia and France first. France also just invested several billion into Iraqi's oil industry. So, while I can see how some people think that the US is acting so that it can secure oil supplies (I disagree) I think a stronger point can be made that France and Russia are acting because they want to secure their investments in Iraq. France has also stated that more than anything, they want "a say" in matters. The US governments initial path of taking action w/o asking the UN how they feel about it probably didn't help matters. That's why France is getting so involved in Africa right now - it's the last place where they can get involved and be an influence. And I think most Americans are pissed at France because we feel more American boys died liberating France than French soldiers. Then France wouldn't allow our planes to use French bases or even fly over France for the attacks on Libya (which helped bring the end to official state-sponsored terrorism around the world.)

As far as Germany goes, I kinda see them like Japan. They have some demons haunting them over their history and because of this will not support any military action for any reason other than to defend an all-out attack.

Oh yeah, to get back on topic: WHOEVER DISAGREE'S WITH ME: SHUT YOUR COCK-HOSTLER!!

Seriously, with the UN's lack of action in Bosnia, what good are they? I can see how this Iraq thing isn't flying with them, but trying to stop genecide in Bosnia with sanctions?!?