The surprising thing isn't that these things are becoming rarer, it's that they ever existed. It's an unbelievable aberration that everyone involved can justly be deeply embarrassed about, and it's inevitable that they will all disappear as the consumer AV market matures, and by "matures" I mean "gets past the stage where Harmony and Pronto have to change their nappies for them".

HDMI CEC is nail #1 in their coffin, but even CEC is a bit half-assed (13 ASCII characters of OSD? So desu ne, tovarisch?) and it has been for a long time not rocket science to do it properly (UPnP, for example).

Peter