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#100065 - 18/06/2002 10:49 empeg direct connect file transfer
JBjorgen
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Now that a local friend has gotten an empeg I found myself with another wish. I'd be nice to be able to connect two empegs with an ethernet crossover cable and swap songs through the empeg user interface (no other boxen involved). I know that currently, the disks are mounted read-only unless being updated by emplode, but I was wondering if this would be theoretically possible. Maybe as an external app run through hijack which simulated an emplode file transfer? The thread below about "emplode or jempeg onboard" didn't really touch on this.
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#100066 - 18/06/2002 11:11 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: JBjorgen]
Terminator
old hand

Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Doesn't Jemplode do that?

Sean

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#100067 - 18/06/2002 11:13 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: JBjorgen]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
What about loading a ftp client on one of the boxes? With hijack on the other side, you would be able to send files between them.
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#100068 - 18/06/2002 12:24 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: pgrzelak]
JBjorgen
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
What about loading a ftp client on one of the boxes? With hijack on the other side, you would be able to send files between them.

To do this, someone would have to write or hack together an ftp client that would run on the empeg that could be controlled with the buttons or remote, right? Or does something like this already exist?
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#100069 - 18/06/2002 13:10 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: JBjorgen]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Well the FTP bit, even if controlled by the front buttons or remote buttons, would still only achieve the goal of getting the files physically sent to the other empeg. The missing ingredient would be something on the empeg that can generate the FID files, build the database, etc. Getting MP3's into the fids directory is only the first part of the puzzle.
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#100070 - 18/06/2002 13:39 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: tonyc]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
A simple front-end to emptool, with a user interface to the front-panel buttons, would be cool...
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#100071 - 18/06/2002 16:15 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: JBjorgen]
ElectricD7
member

Registered: 31/01/2002
Posts: 135
Loc: Indiana, USA
Add me to this wishlist! That would be an awesome idea for us that have other empeg owners nearby. Would be cool if it could be implemented into the search util...ie Search for song -> send to -> Choose Device -> Go -> auto re-build database on remote end.
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#100072 - 18/06/2002 20:21 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: ElectricD7]
Ezekiel
pooh-bah

Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
Neeless to say, extending this thought to cloning empegs may have utility as well. That'd be a great app.

-Zeke
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#100073 - 19/06/2002 01:26 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: JBjorgen]
Legoverse
journeyman

Registered: 25/04/2002
Posts: 66
Loc: Mesa, AZ
nice to be able to connect two empegs with an ethernet crossover cable and swap songs through the empeg

Wouldn't that upset the RIAA?

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#100074 - 19/06/2002 07:19 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: Legoverse]
JBjorgen
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
Wouldn't that upset the RIAA?

Of course we would only swap non-copyrighted and public domain music... It's up to each user to be responsible to use the feature properly.
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#100075 - 19/06/2002 07:29 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: JBjorgen]
revlmwest
addict

Registered: 05/06/2002
Posts: 497
Loc: Hartsville, South Carolina for...
An empeg is like a shovel, it can be used to build or to smack someone on the head but the shovel is always innocent. The tool is amoral. Only the the user can be immoral.
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#100076 - 19/06/2002 07:39 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: revlmwest]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
The tool is amoral. Only the the user can be immoral.

Guns don't kill people, bullets do.
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#100077 - 19/06/2002 08:10 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: tonyc]
revlmwest
addict

Registered: 05/06/2002
Posts: 497
Loc: Hartsville, South Carolina for...
The reasoning assumes their is a moral reason to have the object or that it can have a moral purpose. Some guns for example have no private moral purpose and therefore would not be protected by my statement. For example a m16 has no private moral value. If you need that much firepower to kill a deer you need a new hobby.

A side note: It is also possible for something to be justifiably illegal and yet not be immoral, basically because people can't be trusted to use it correctly.
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#100078 - 19/06/2002 08:27 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: revlmwest]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
I was kinda just joking around, not looking to get into serious moral debate over guns..

I don't have a strong opinion on gun ownership at all... I just thought that your statement sounded like the old NRA mantra that I deliberately misquoted.
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#100079 - 19/06/2002 08:34 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: tonyc]
revlmwest
addict

Registered: 05/06/2002
Posts: 497
Loc: Hartsville, South Carolina for...
Sorry for my seriousness, I'm the kind of guy that likes to hang out in coffee shops, argue vehemently over nothing at all and then leave liking everybody more than when I went in.

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#100080 - 19/06/2002 08:38 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: revlmwest]
tonyc
carpal tunnel

Registered: 27/06/1999
Posts: 7058
Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
Okay, I'm with that.
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#100081 - 19/06/2002 08:41 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: revlmwest]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
Sorry for my seriousness, I'm the kind of guy that likes to hang out in coffee shops, argue vehemently over nothing at all and then leave liking everybody more than when I went in.

Boy oh boy, you'll love it here on this BBS then...

Peter

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#100082 - 19/06/2002 13:28 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: peter]
tanstaafl.
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
Revlmwest: I'm the kind of guy that likes to hang out in coffee shops, argue vehemently over nothing at all

Peter: Boy oh boy, you'll love it here on this BBS then...

Well, sometimes we talk about really serious stuff... you should find the thread on Oreo cookies, for example...

tanstaafl.
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#100083 - 19/06/2002 18:49 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: tonyc]
jwickis
addict

Registered: 24/08/2000
Posts: 658
Loc: India
No, no, no, "Guns don't kill people...the government does"-Dale Gribble

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#100084 - 20/06/2002 17:07 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: Ezekiel]
FlibblE
journeyman

Registered: 16/02/2000
Posts: 94
Loc: UK - NE Wales
Or even over your in-car wireless networks! man - just pull up next to each other ;p

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#100085 - 21/06/2002 14:10 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: tonyc]
Legoverse
journeyman

Registered: 25/04/2002
Posts: 66
Loc: Mesa, AZ
Guns don't kill people, bullets do.

Bullets don't kill people, bullets velocity kill people.
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#100086 - 21/06/2002 14:58 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: Legoverse]
JBjorgen
carpal tunnel

Registered: 19/01/2002
Posts: 3584
Loc: Columbus, OH
And if we really wanted to be picky, we could say it wasn't the velocity, but the trauma experienced by the victim of having an encounter with a bullet moving at a high velocity that actually killed him, but I think the point was made long ago.

lest we digress....is anyone interested in tackling an app like this for the empeg? I have 2 WAP's that I'd love to try out with it.
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#100087 - 22/06/2002 02:20 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: Legoverse]
jane
enthusiast

Registered: 10/10/2000
Posts: 350
Loc: Copenhagen SW, Denmark
No, not velocity, bullet momentum and/or kinetic energy.

Marius (Escort Cab + Mark II)

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#100088 - 23/06/2002 17:14 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: tonyc]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Guns don't kill people, bullets do.

No, it's "Guns don't kill people, death does".

(I've been playing GTA3 way too much. For anyone not interested in the game, pick it up anyways when it hits $10, the second CD has all the in game radio stations in WAV format, and the 60 mins of "Chatterbox" is well worth it alone.)

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#100089 - 23/06/2002 20:41 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: drakino]
lectric
pooh-bah

Registered: 20/01/2002
Posts: 2085
Loc: New Orleans, LA
GTA3? I'll bite.

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#100090 - 25/06/2002 13:25 Re: empeg direct connect file transfer [Re: lectric]
drakino
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
Grand Theft Auto 3.

With as well as it's selling, I doubt it will hit bargin bin prices any time soon though.

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