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#107307 - 25/07/2002 09:36 enqueue vs. insert
TedP
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Registered: 11/01/2002
Posts: 171
Loc: South Bay, CA: USA
sorry, i missed the thead that was mentioned in the release notes. can someone explain how enqueue differs from insert? i enqueued a song in the middle of a playlist, and it came on after the current song finished. that is the behavior i used to get from insert. (i have not tried insert yet to see what the difference is).

also, is there a way to make the default action for "play" be enqueue? (i.e. when selecting a song or playlist, if i click the knob or down-button, it would automatically enqueue, rather than reset the whole playlist).

thanks
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#107308 - 25/07/2002 09:46 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: TedP]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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enqueue puts the track in after all of the other enqueued tracks.
insert puts the track in after the currently playing track.

If you insert/enqueue only once, the behaviour is the same for both actions.
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#107309 - 25/07/2002 09:48 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: TedP]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
There is no way to make Enqueue the default action, but I updated the FAQ yesterday to give details on the difference between Insert and Enqueue. Do a search on Enqueue and you'll find it.
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#107310 - 25/07/2002 12:16 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: TedP]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
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Loc: Berkeley, California
I've got to say that I agree that I really want a way to make enque the default action. I never want to just play a single song, and rarely want to just play a certain playlist. I don't know how many times it took me to make the long-press-short-press my default action mentally, and every time I have a friend make up their own playlist they screw it up halfway through and give up...

Matthew

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#107311 - 25/07/2002 12:18 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: matthew_k]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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You can make enqueue the default action on SEARCHES...

And you can search for tunes faster than you can scroll through the menus for tunes...

And you can also seach on playlist names...

Have you spent much time doing searches?
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#107312 - 25/07/2002 12:27 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: tfabris]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
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Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
In reply to:

And you can search for tunes faster than you can scroll through the menus for tunes...


Not if you're a passenger typical of mine - many of them like to browse playlists, picking tracks out as they go (and using the handy "back to where you where" long-press of the Playlists menu-item for speed). Search is only likely to be quicker if you know what you want before you see it...
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#107313 - 25/07/2002 12:45 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: tms13]
justinlarsen
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Registered: 31/12/2001
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Search is only likely to be quicker if you know what you want before you see it... /

not always im a huge fan of going trough and added a few genre's that i want to listen to, or Years if im feeling super 1992 moods i can blast that stuff
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#107314 - 25/07/2002 13:09 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: justinlarsen]
SE_Sport_Driver
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Registered: 05/01/2001
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wow... a budy and I had the big discussion and we think that 1989 to 1992 was the best for alt. music with 1991 being the very best.... neat.
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#107315 - 25/07/2002 13:13 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: justinlarsen]
F0X
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Registered: 31/03/2002
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Loc: Alberta, Canada
In reply to:

not always im a huge fan of going trough and added a few genre's that i want to listen to, or Years if im feeling super 1992 moods i can blast that stuff




Am I the only one confused by that?
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#107316 - 25/07/2002 13:31 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: F0X]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Nope. I think the key is that there should be a period after ``always''.
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#107317 - 25/07/2002 13:47 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: tfabris]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12338
Loc: Sterling, VA
Tony, I've lost my remote. Searching is not quicker.
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#107318 - 25/07/2002 15:18 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: tfabris]
bodybag
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Registered: 07/03/2002
Posts: 504
Loc: Southern California
Tony,
Is there a way to make insert, replace or append default actions? I know you can with a search but what about when browsing playlists? If this is optional, I was unaware.
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#107319 - 25/07/2002 15:22 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: bodybag]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
Is there a way to make insert, replace or append default actions? I know you can with a search but what about when browsing playlists?

I believe I answered this question already in the very first sentence of my first reply to this thread.
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#107320 - 25/07/2002 15:31 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: tfabris]
bodybag
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Registered: 07/03/2002
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Loc: Southern California
Technically you didn't...

"There is no way to make Enqueue the default action"

This would seem to leave the door open for our other action choices to be set as the default. At least that's what I thought.
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#107321 - 25/07/2002 16:23 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: bodybag]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
That line looks very clear to me. There is no way to make enqueue the default action. There is no way to make anything the default action - its a pop up menu, and you select what you want to do. Why would there be a way to make insert or append default, but not enqueue?

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#107322 - 25/07/2002 17:03 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: Terminator]
bodybag
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Registered: 07/03/2002
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Terminator,
Basically, because "Enqueue" is a new action (or an old one re-named) I thought maybe it was "left out" of being able to be chosen as default. The whole idea of the possibility of being able to set your default preference just came to me while reading this thread. Because in Tony's statement he didn't mention the other actions, I thought the option to chose your default was something I may be missing or overlooking. Even in your response you wrote:

"There is no way to make anything the default action - its a pop up menu"

Had Tony's original post said that (or something similar), I wouldn't have even had the notion that setting the other actions as defaults may be possible. Just a simple misunderstanding, no reason to try and make me look like a fool for asking.
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#107323 - 25/07/2002 17:18 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: bodybag]
Terminator
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Registered: 12/01/2000
Posts: 1079
Loc: Dallas, TX
Sorry to be so snippy, I thought you were trying to be a smartass and backpedal your way out of that one :-) The word technically is a "bs management" word which red flagged it as a bs post (to me). People here are very helpful, if there was some way to set anything as a default preference, Tony would have mentioned it. I think the default he was mentioning was referring to the search options.

Sean

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#107324 - 25/07/2002 18:24 Re: enqueue vs. insert [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
I suppose one could screen-scrape this and have Hijack modify the default action..

Patches accepted, but I'm not likely to do it on my own for now.

-ml

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