#159432 - 06/05/2003 17:28
null modem cable
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pooh-bah
Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
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im having trouble finding one online to order. can anyone point me to somebody that actually has db9 male to db9 male. i can find m/f f/f but not m/m. perhaps im not looking hard enough
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#159433 - 06/05/2003 17:38
Re: null modem cable
[Re: RobotCaleb]
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Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
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How about this? 
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#159434 - 06/05/2003 17:41
Re: null modem cable
[Re: ricin]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
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empeg is m/m right?
since im unable to find m/m i may have to buy a cable and adaptor. null modem adaptor and straight through cable seems that it would be most practical in that case.
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#159435 - 06/05/2003 17:42
Re: null modem cable
[Re: RobotCaleb]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
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empeg is m/m right? Empeg is M, computer DB9 port is M, so the cable must be F/F. (IIRC)
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#159436 - 06/05/2003 17:45
Re: null modem cable
[Re: RobotCaleb]
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veteran
Registered: 19/06/2000
Posts: 1495
Loc: US: CA
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For empeg use you'd need a F/F null modem cable. Serial ports themselves are Male connections.
Edit:
I should say, not just for empeg use, but for anything requiring a serial port -> serial port connection with a null modem cable.
Edited by ricin (06/05/2003 17:47)
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#159437 - 06/05/2003 17:46
Re: null modem cable
[Re: tfabris]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 15/01/2002
Posts: 1866
Loc: Austin
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damn my virgin ways.
that makes the search so much easier
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#159438 - 06/05/2003 22:16
Re: null modem cable
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31596
Loc: Seattle, WA
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damn my virgin ways. You know, I always wondered what the deal was with naming connectors in that way. Did the people doing the naming just assume that children wouldn't ever be interested in learning about electronics? Or did that naming convention come from a less-sexually-repressed culture?
My personal pet theory: Once upon a time, all people remotely interested in electronics were undersexed geeks, and therefore obsessed with that sort of thing...
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#159439 - 07/05/2003 04:26
Re: null modem cable
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
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You know, I always wondered what the deal was with naming connectors in that way. I think it's just the obvious metaphore; we all would have thought it whether we heard someone say it or not.
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#159440 - 07/05/2003 06:07
Re: null modem cable
[Re: tfabris]
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old hand
Registered: 01/05/2003
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Loc: Ada, Oklahoma
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Once upon a time, all people remotely interested in electronics were undersexed geeks
Once upon a time?
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#159441 - 07/05/2003 06:27
Re: null modem cable
[Re: tfabris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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I'd say a lot of IT people still are. Considering all of the IT exhibitions I've been to have had women wearing not very much handing out leaflets etc...
At the one I went to recently, one company actually had a platform above their stand for dancers. I'm still trying to work out how this is related to secure networking...
- Trevor
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#159442 - 07/05/2003 06:32
Re: null modem cable
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pooh-bah
Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
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Surely if Once upon a time, all people remotely interested in electronics were undersexed geeks , by now there would be nobody left who was interested in electronics, because the geeks, being undersexed, would not have bred a further generation?
Give mwest his old posts! Now!
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#159443 - 07/05/2003 06:50
Re: null modem cable
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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undersexed I think by ``undersexed'', Tony meant ``not getting any'', and not ``uninterested in sex'', which would be the more normal (read: ``correct'') definition.
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#159444 - 07/05/2003 06:51
Re: null modem cable
[Re: tman]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
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At the one I went to recently, one company actually had a platform above their stand for dancers. I'm still trying to work out how this is related to secure networking...
Were they handing out condoms?
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#159445 - 07/05/2003 07:11
Re: null modem cable
[Re: genixia]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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Were they handing out condoms? I saw an advert card in Viz once which said something like "Protection, without compromising performance". When you unfolded it, it was an advert for 3com IPSEC-offload network cards. I don't know what surprised me more, that 3com felt it worthwhile to advertise IPSEC-offload cards in Viz, or that they managed to produce an advert so in keeping with the risque content of the comic.
Peter
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#159446 - 07/05/2003 07:23
Re: null modem cable
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pooh-bah
Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
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Tony meant ``not getting any'', and not ``uninterested in sex''
Surely, the end result would be the same, whatever the reason: No procreation.
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#159447 - 07/05/2003 07:33
Re: null modem cable
[Re: boxer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 14/01/2002
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Loc: Atlanta, GA
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Surly taking about procreation with a subject line of "null modem cable" should give some credence to Tony's characterization of IT people.
However, I still think the terms evolved because they fit the physical objects better than any other metaphor. The first time I ever heard anyone speak of the “male” end of a cable I knew exactly what was being meant.
Also (though I’m sure this has nothing to do with cables really) I believe the word “male” comes from a word meaning “peircer” and female comes from a word meaning “pierced”.
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#159448 - 07/05/2003 07:39
Re: null modem cable
[Re: boxer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Surely, the end result would be the same, whatever the reason: No procreation. Well, the big difference would be whether the geek is uninterested or everyone else is uninterested. If it's the latter then someone is liable to be interested eventually. Then again, there are fifty year old virgins in the world, and I imagine that most of them are geeks. (You'd think that it'd be time to to just cut your losses and pay for it by then, though.)
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#159449 - 07/05/2003 07:58
Re: null modem cable
[Re: genixia]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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No but one company were giving out branded boxer shorts...
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#159450 - 07/05/2003 08:14
Re: null modem cable
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pooh-bah
Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
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someone is liable to be interested eventually
So geeks procreating is a bit like chimps writing Beethoven, give 'em a organ or piano, respectively, and they'll get there eventually
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#159451 - 07/05/2003 08:25
Re: null modem cable
[Re: boxer]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
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Exactly!
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#159452 - 07/05/2003 09:15
Re: null modem cable
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
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Kinda, except they'll get there quicker. Even though they're geeks, they've still got some bio programming, and there's similar numbers of each sex who are in the same boat.. eventually they crash into each other.
Cheers
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#159453 - 07/05/2003 11:07
Re: null modem cable
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pooh-bah
Registered: 25/08/2000
Posts: 2413
Loc: NH USA
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"All jocks think about is sports. All geeks think about is sex."
-Revenge of the Nerds
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