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#163178 - 28/05/2003 10:51 Serial Commands/Library?
foxtrot_xray
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Hey guys..
In anticipation for getting the PCB done for the external VFD, I'm going to start looking at making a simple interface to send basic data to it via the serial port.. However, having never used the seial port before, I have a few questions...

1. I notice that some items, like Hijack occasionally, Emphatic (when menus are entered/left) and sometimes the player binary.. What will happen to these if my program 'grabs' the serial port? Will those messages still be sent out? Will those programs halt until they CAN write to the port? Will my program even be allowed to write since Hijack (at least) has already 'grabbed' the port?

2. Anyone point me to either libraries, or man pages on functrions/such to use the serial port? (Well, I should say 'open and set' the serial port.. I figure that once it's opened, you got a standard file handle.. Tho I could be wrong..)


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#163179 - 28/05/2003 11:14 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: foxtrot_xray]
tonyc
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emphatic doesn't grab the serial port, ever...
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#163180 - 28/05/2003 11:42 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: foxtrot_xray]
tfabris
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Right now, Hijack is starting the player app with a special command line parameter to disable the player app grabbing the serial port in car mode. This is so that GPSapp can talk to the serial port. So your app would basically be in the same boat as GPSapp is: i.e., it would need Hijack and would "just work" when it was in car mode.
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#163181 - 28/05/2003 12:09 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: tonyc]
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No, but it does write to it, right? I don't have my logs with me now, but I remember when running it, it would say that it like, "Unbind from Hijack Menu" or something..

Unless there's a difference between 'grabbing' it and simply outputting to it?

Me.
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#163182 - 28/05/2003 12:18 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: foxtrot_xray]
tonyc
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Unless there's a difference between 'grabbing' it and simply outputting to it?
Yes, there is. emphatic doesn't write to "the serial port." It writes to stdout (standard output) which happens to go to the serial port usually, but can be redirected to a file, or to /dev/null to get rid of them entirely.
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#163183 - 28/05/2003 16:36 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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I'm adding a menu selection to Hijack v336 to enable toggling the serial port behaviour.

Cheers

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#163184 - 28/05/2003 16:44 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: mlord]
tfabris
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Does it allow separate home/car behavior?
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#163185 - 28/05/2003 16:46 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: mlord]
tfabris
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Oh, and if possible, you should probably default it to the current behavior so that the the GPSapp documentation doesn't have to be changed.
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#163186 - 28/05/2003 16:57 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: tonyc]
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Aaaah!! Okay, thanks! (Me, shoing my ignorance. What's scary is I still know alot more than my company's "Core C" programmers..And I'm not a programmer!)

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#163187 - 28/05/2003 16:59 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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Mmm.. naw, I think I'll default it to regular player behaviour.

Sorry chaps!

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#163188 - 28/05/2003 17:01 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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Nope. One flash bit for it, affects both AC/DC.

But if we're REALLY REALLY sure that we always want the player on the serial port at HOME, then I can make it a DC-only thing.

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#163189 - 28/05/2003 17:03 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: mlord]
tfabris
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It's just that I depend on the current behavior, which is different between home and car.

Edit: More detail:

At home, people need to be able to connect to the shell to do certain commands, or the player needs to be able to hear the "please reboot" command so that it can get a new logo or a new kernel from Logoedit. Yet, in order for GPSapp to work, the player must NOT be listening to serial.

If you make it one-bit, then I have to manually switch each time I move between home and car.
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#163190 - 28/05/2003 17:05 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: tfabris]
mlord
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Okay, I'll make it the same as now -- affects DC/Car mode only.

Cheers

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#163191 - 28/05/2003 17:07 Re: Serial Commands/Library? [Re: mlord]
tfabris
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Cool.
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