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#183037 - 06/10/2003 00:42 blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit
bjoern
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Regensburg, Germany
Ok, it was almost 2am and I was ready to go. Only wanted to test the 9 and 5V at the voltage regulators on the kit after completeing step LK1, LK2. Forgot to check the amperage on my power supply and supplied around 30Amps to the board. Of course the 9V regulator blew and is now cracked. I'm very embarrassed!
1. Where can I get a new one (part. no?)?
2. What else could be blown that I need to replace?
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#183038 - 06/10/2003 01:19 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: bjoern]
rowitech
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The 9V regulator should be a normal 7809.
Best to let the current be at minimal value (200mA) when testing. But the current supplied by your power supply didn't kill your 7809, there should be a short in your circuit.

Rolf
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#183039 - 06/10/2003 02:22 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: rowitech]
mtempsch
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But the current supplied by your power supply didn't kill your 7809, there should be a short in your circuit.

Definately agree with this. The battery in your car is capable of supplying - at a minimum - hundreds of amperes. But the empeg - and any other circuit - only draws as much as it needs.

Check carefully for short circuits between the output leg of the 9V regulator and ground (including anywhere along the copper track that the output leg is attached to. Also check that you stll have continuity between all points of the inbound track (the +12). Check the same for the ground track(s), as well as the the track connected to the 9V output - quite easy to burn off a track when you have a short...

/Michael
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#183040 - 06/10/2003 08:25 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: rowitech]
bjoern
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Loc: Regensburg, Germany
The 9V regulator should be a normal 7809.

Good to know - but who sells those?
Thanks for the tips about the short. I'd find it very surprising if I had a short anywhere as all the solder joints are perfect under the dissecting miroscope, but then again, I've never soldered anything like that, so surprises are to be asumed
I'll try to do the tests you've suggested, although I have to admit that the task looks somewhat daunting to me right now...
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#183041 - 06/10/2003 08:35 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: bjoern]
rowitech
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>Good to know - but who sells those?

Depends on where you live. Here in Germany we have some big electronic stores who sell those parts. Such a 7809 doesn't cost much, about one dollar/euro or two.

If you can measure resistance, test the tree solderpoints for shorts. There is a chance of having a defective 7809, but this happens only once in a blue moon. Don't count on this.

Rolf
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#183042 - 06/10/2003 08:51 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: rowitech]
bjoern
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Depends on where you live. Here in Germany


I'm from Germany but live in the US (until next month). I'd like to have the tuner done before I move back...

If you can measure resistance, test the tree solderpoints for shorts. There is a chance of having a defective 7809, but this happens only once in a blue moon. Don't count on this.


It worked fine on the previous test I made (a few steps back). I'll try to see if I can find something. Any more tips are dearly appreciated!
Thanks a million!
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#183043 - 06/10/2003 10:15 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: bjoern]
mtempsch
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Good to know - but who sells those?

Any shop that sells electronics components should have it - very common part.
If you have a Radio Schack near by try them. If not, I'll have to let the US guys comment on other possible sources in the US.

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#183044 - 07/10/2003 12:27 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: mtempsch]
bjoern
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Loc: Regensburg, Germany
So is it this one:
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/us/dksus.dll?Detail?Ref=398667&Row=106894
or this one:
http://www.digikey.com/scripts/us/dksus.dll?Detail?Ref=398667&Row=106892

Digigkey part no.'s 497-1175-1-ND and 497-1176-1-ND.

Thanks!

Bjoern
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#183045 - 07/10/2003 13:06 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: bjoern]
rowitech
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Registered: 22/09/2002
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Loc: Germany, Cologne
The second one should serve 1 Ampere (1A). Probably the first one is the same for less current. 1 A should be enough, this is 12 Watts, much for a tuner. Since you cannot provide too much current (but indeed a too high voltage), take the one with most current.
But there are some parts in different cases so if you get a picture, it should be better.

Rolf
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#183046 - 17/10/2003 14:03 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: rowitech]
bjoern
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Regensburg, Germany
ok, went to Frys, got one that I thought said 9V 1A on the tag and soldered it in. Now it shows 8V (7.97) instead of 9V? The NTE number on it is NTE964 (over that it says 022L) Did I get the wrong one?

Also, right next to the crystal, the ztx789a transistor has the gating property only on one side of the base not on both. Is it shot, too? Could it be that this transistor is closer to the 9V regulator than the others (which are all fine)?
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#183047 - 17/10/2003 14:06 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: bjoern]
bjoern
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Loc: Regensburg, Germany
Forget my first question, just found out that it is a 8V regulator. Either the print on the hanger was bad, or my eyes or it was in the wrong place. Gotta get another one...
grrrrr
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#183048 - 17/10/2003 14:19 Re: blew 9V regulator on PCATS tuner kit [Re: bjoern]
bjoern
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Registered: 03/04/2002
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Loc: Regensburg, Germany
So this is the NTE number for a 7809:
http://www.sourceresearch.com/store1/quickStore.cfm?ProductID=53391&do=detail
http://www.nteinc.com/specs/1900to1999/pdf/nte1910.pdf

NTE1910??? I'll go to frys one more time and get it then if that's the part. Do you think I should go ahead and get the transistor, too? What's the part number there?

Thanks a lot for your help guys!
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