I hope they have licensed the joystick idea.....

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First thing I thought was:

"4 hrs. battery life? WTF?"

Then I scrolled down and saw that the 1st person to respond said the same thing.......

......but yea, that joystick looks awfuly familiar.......wonder where the usual sony jog dial is that they were putting on everything for a while (seem to remember it was even on some notebooks....).

It's surprisingly ... ugly for a Sony, I wonder if it was released ahead of schedule.

I'd say you should be wondering if Rio licensed the scroll wheel that Sony has on everything! heheh.

I'd say you should be wondering if Rio licensed the scroll wheel that Sony has on everything! heheh.

Hey, we first used that exact same component on the Rio 500, it's nothing new

Rob

......but yea, that joystick looks awfuly familiar

Another Rio Stick knock-off. I don't know if Rio originated this concept, but it seems to be getting very popular.

Uhm as far as I know, Sony as in Sony Ericsson has been using that joystick knob on many of their T model cell phones. Way before Karma was ever released.

The comment was meant in relation to MP3 players.