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#193815 - 16/12/2003 17:32 Darn EQ Killing me
bigfatty
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Registered: 16/12/2003
Posts: 1
I have had my Mk2a for about a year now, maybe a bit longer. Recently I got the great idea to upgrade to 2.0 of the consumer software and the lastest hijak kernal. Now when adjusting my EQ the band will not drop below 50 wtf? I am driving 2 10" Kicker Comp VR in a custom box tuned to 30 and i usually increase that 1-2 db before it hits the alpine mdr-m500 amps. Is there a way to force this thing to go below 50 or do i just need to set the Q to a low setting to bring the other frequencies up?

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#193816 - 16/12/2003 17:35 Re: Darn EQ Killing me [Re: bigfatty]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
You need to adjust the Q setting, that is correct.

The problem with setting frequencies below 50 was that you could possibly create certain value combinations that would make the DSP produce low frequency static, which potentially might damage your speakers.
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#193817 - 17/12/2003 17:26 Re: Darn EQ Killing me [Re: bigfatty]
Miltoid
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Registered: 17/10/2002
Posts: 57
Loc: Republic of Texas
Downgrade to 2.0-beta13.
Set EQ to taste (avoiding the insanely high Q settings that were required to cause the noise problem). Save EQ setting.
Upgrade back to 2.0-final.
Your EQ setting will be intact w/sub 50Hz band. Just don't try to change it!
Enjoy.
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#193818 - 17/12/2003 17:30 Re: Darn EQ Killing me [Re: tfabris]
Miltoid
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Registered: 17/10/2002
Posts: 57
Loc: Republic of Texas
Has this been changed in 3.0a? Or am I going to be stuck with 2.0-final if I want my system to sound right? I'm too chicken to try 3.0 on my one & only Empeg to find out.
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#193819 - 17/12/2003 18:05 Re: Darn EQ Killing me [Re: Miltoid]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
Remember that 2.0 was the fixed version. The fact that it won't let you set it below 50 is the intended behavior. So as they go forward in versions, it's likely that they'll continue to have it be the same behavior.
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#193820 - 17/12/2003 18:52 Re: Darn EQ Killing me [Re: tfabris]
Miltoid
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Registered: 17/10/2002
Posts: 57
Loc: Republic of Texas
Actually, a fixed version would still allow sub 50Hz EQ, but not allow you to choose the extreme combinations of Q & levels that would "break" the DSP.
I probably wouldn't be so ticked off about this if my truck didn't require a fairly deep "cut" at 32Hz to smooth out the bass (as measured with a Sencore 12th octave RTA).
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#193821 - 17/12/2003 19:03 Re: Darn EQ Killing me [Re: Miltoid]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31602
Loc: Seattle, WA
but not allow you to choose the extreme combinations of Q & levels that would "break" the DSP
Therein lies the problem. That wasn't possible. The DSP-breaking combinations required extremely strange and specific settings which fell in the middle of other acceptable ranges. The only solutions are: Allow people to break the DSP, or prevent them from breaking the DSP by brute force. They chose the latter.
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