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#196436 - 30/04/2004 18:03 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: maczrool]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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nRAS3 is for Mk2, not Mk2a. Right?

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#196437 - 30/04/2004 18:04 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
maczrool
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So does it matter that we are using pin 121 and not 123 as in the old posts? Seems like it would.

Stu
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#196438 - 30/04/2004 18:05 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: maczrool]
mlord
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Mk2a should be using nRAS1, pin 123, as per Hugo's posting.

But if you have already used nRAS3 on a Mk2a, then let me know, and I'll respin the kernel appropriately. In the end, it doesn't matter too much, but life is easier for me if they're consecutive.

-ml

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#196439 - 30/04/2004 18:06 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Mmm.. actually, it MAY matter.. gotta think about that some more.

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#196440 - 30/04/2004 18:15 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: maczrool]
mlord
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Here is blind guess kernel number two, suitable ONLY for mk2a units with 32MB of DRAM, using RAS3 for the second bank:

http://rtr.ca//hijack.mk2a-32mb-ras3.zImage

Both this kernel, and the earlier one (for RAS1 units), require the e000 flash update posted by Hugo earlier in this thread.

Cheers

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#196441 - 03/05/2004 14:49 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Has anyone tried one or the other of those special kernels yet?

Care to report back here?

Cheers

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#196442 - 03/05/2004 16:16 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
I haven't heard anything back from Stu. He was making good progress on the upgrade so I'm assuming non-Empeg things have accosted him. I'll post as soon as I hear something. Thanks for putting the kernel together.

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#196443 - 03/05/2004 16:37 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: Mach]
pgrzelak
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
I do not have a player here yet able to use the hack. Stu should have (or already has) received my first test unit around now.
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#196444 - 03/05/2004 17:02 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: Mach]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Ahh, okay.

I've just (now!) taken Rita apart, and added two chips to her.

Now trying to figure out how to get the kernel to see it all.

-ml

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#196445 - 03/05/2004 17:43 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
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Loc: Louisiana, USA
I need to know how to safely load the Flash upgrade. I wasn't really following Mark's instructions on how to load it with Hijack. Once I know how to load it properly, I'll give it a shot.

Thanks for all of your work.
Stu
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#196446 - 03/05/2004 18:40 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: maczrool]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
I do the flash upgrade by simply using FTP to upload the file Hugo posted into /proc/flash_0e000

I have a new kernel for you:

http://rtr.ca/hijack.mk2a-32mb.zImage

This finds 32MB for me, but later dies with memory errors. I'd like to see if it also dies for you, or if it works.

EDIT: Fixed -- I had a couple of data lines that needed more solder. When I eventually release full Hijack support, it will include a memory test for the extended DRAM to aid in diagnosis.

-ml


Edited by mlord (03/05/2004 22:56)

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#196447 - 03/05/2004 18:46 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
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Oh yeah.. that latest kernel REQUIRES that you use RAS1 for the extra bank. This will be the only supported configuration in the long run.

-ml

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#196448 - 03/05/2004 22:37 Rita (with implants!): my 32MB Mk2a Player [Re: pgrzelak]
mlord
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Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
/proc/meminfo:
        total:    used:    free:  shared: buffers:  cached:

Mem: 31924224 31100928 823296 1249280 5005312 13398016
Swap: 0 0 0
MemTotal: 31176 kB
MemFree: 804 kB
MemShared: 1220 kB
Buffers: 4888 kB
Cached: 13084 kB
SwapTotal: 0 kB
SwapFree: 0 kB


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#196449 - 03/05/2004 22:44 Re: Rita (with implants!): my 32MB Mk2a Player [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Here's a photo of Rita's implants:


For scale, note that the white whispy streak on the left is a hair from our cat!


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#196450 - 03/05/2004 22:54 Re: Rita (with implants!): my 32MB Mk2a Player [Re: mlord]
BAKup
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Registered: 11/11/2001
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Loc: Houston, TX
Aren't implants supposed to be made out of silicone, not silicon?

Sorry, had to make the joke
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#196451 - 03/05/2004 23:37 Re: Rita (with implants!): my 32MB Mk2a Player [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Is that babe stacked or what!!



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#196452 - 03/05/2004 23:43 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
For that matter, Hugo's e000 rom code only enables RAS1 (and RAS0). Not RAS3.

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#196453 - 04/05/2004 04:51 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
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Loc: New Jersey, USA
Beautiful work!!! Impressive!!!
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#196454 - 04/05/2004 09:35 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: pgrzelak]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada
Actually, that's the uglier of the two chips. I didn't straighten out the pins on that one, so they barely make contact. The other one (which I did second) is nicer, but harder to photograph.

Cheers

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#196455 - 04/05/2004 10:42 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: maczrool]
mlord
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Okay, here are the Hijack-v384 kernels for upgraded players:

http://rtr.ca/hijack.mk2-16mb.zImage
http://rtr.ca/hijack.mk2a-32mb.zImage

These will NOT work on ordinary (non-modified) players.
Included in these is a memory test for the newly expanded chips. If this fails, you'll know it from watching the serial logs, and can use the info it dumps to figure out which pins need resoldering.

Also required (before the kernel change) is Hugo's e000 flash update. I would suggest that this update be installed ONLY on upgraded players, not non-upgraded players -- because I may use it to test for upgrades in the kernel some time in the future.

Hugo's e000 update is also available here:

http://rtr.ca/flash_0e000.extramem

To install the e000 update, just FTP to the player (running any recent Hijack), cd to /proc, and put the flash file on top of "flash_0e000". It will install instantly, and is permanent once installed.

Cheers




Edited by mlord (04/05/2004 10:44)

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#196456 - 04/05/2004 11:05 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
wfaulk
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So the conclusion is that adding more memory works. Has anyone looked to see if the player software actually uses the additional memory, or does it just malloc the amount it thinks the hardware has? Would negative cache settings help?
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#196457 - 04/05/2004 11:36 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: wfaulk]
mlord
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Loc: Canada
The player does not appear to use much of the extra 16m I added, but Linux uses it for general operations and disk-caching. I think peter may do something about the player s/w, though..

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#196458 - 04/05/2004 11:47 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
pgrzelak
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If so, you may have found a way to get me to load alpha code...
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#196459 - 04/05/2004 13:24 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
Daria
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Registered: 24/01/2002
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Loc: Providence, RI
So what memory should I be buying and where should I be sending my player?


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#196460 - 04/05/2004 13:43 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
Most excellent! Thank you very much!

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#196461 - 04/05/2004 16:47 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: Mach]
maczrool
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Registered: 13/01/2002
Posts: 1649
Loc: Louisiana, USA
Okay, we're going to move the line to RAS1 and try later today. I wonder why the e-mail Hugo sent instructed we use RAS3? Oh well. Thanks for the work!

What is needed for the MK2 to have 16 megs? We did a memory upgrade on one which I guess will have to come back so we can move the line to the appropriate line.

Stu
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#196462 - 04/05/2004 17:11 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: maczrool]
mlord
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Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14472
Loc: Canada

MK2 == RAS3

MK2A == RAS1

There are kernels for each, see links above.

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#196463 - 05/05/2004 11:18 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mlord]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Very cool! So did anyone come up with a memory supplier yet? And like dbrasher said, how much and where do I send it
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#196464 - 05/05/2004 12:43 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: mcomb]
Mach
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Registered: 15/07/2002
Posts: 828
Loc: Texas, USA
Hugo pointed us to this supplier earlier in this thread. http://www.memphis-electronic.com/datasheets.htm

As far as the installation, both mlord and maczrool (eutronix) can do the upgrade but you may have to get in line. Maczrool had sourced a series of memory chips but most of these were spoken for IIRC.

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#196465 - 05/05/2004 12:56 Re: Thoughts of more RAM... [Re: Mach]
mcomb
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Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Hugo pointed us to this supplier earlier in this thread

Ah, cool. I missed that. Email inquiry sent to eutronix...

-Mike
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