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#209664 - 17/03/2004 14:25 Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?higher
deadsled13
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Registered: 11/02/2004
Posts: 93
Loc: NC
I was wondering if anyone knew what a good bitrate to encode cds using mp3pro encoder and nero to rip? is anything ove 128 kbs overkill? thanks...beeeeyotch!!
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#209665 - 17/03/2004 14:41 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?higher [Re: deadsled13]
brendanhoar
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Registered: 09/06/2003
Posts: 297
192 CBR is my minimum...anything less is easily noticable. 192 VBR (using LAME) or 256 VBR/CBR are recommended.

Depending on your hearing and listening environment, there's a chance you might be able to get away with 160.

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#209666 - 17/03/2004 14:57 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: deadsled13]
cushman
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Registered: 21/01/2002
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Loc: Erie, CO
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#209667 - 17/03/2004 15:06 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?higher [Re: brendanhoar]
robricc
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Registered: 30/10/2000
Posts: 4931
Loc: New Jersey, USA
He is talking about MP3Pro, not MP3. I'm gonna try to not talk out my ass, but a 128k MP3Pro should sound like a 256k MP3 but only when the decoding device supports MP3Pro. If it doesn't (like the empeg doesn't), it will sound like a 128k MP3.

I personally use 320k CBR MP3s using LAME (converted from FLAC files). I use Exact Audio Copy to extract to FLAC.
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#209668 - 17/03/2004 15:26 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?higher [Re: deadsled13]
edsmiata
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Registered: 18/08/2002
Posts: 544
Loc: New Jersey
160 WMA suits me fine in my Miata
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#209669 - 17/03/2004 16:56 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?higher [Re: robricc]
deadsled13
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Registered: 11/02/2004
Posts: 93
Loc: NC
so using the mp3pro isnt gonna make a difference? oh well back to endless ripping!! arrgggh!! my lame encoder was set at 128 so I guess I'll use that instead..all my others came out at 80kbs and sounded like ass...thanks..guys...loving my new mk2a 20 gig empeg!!!
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#209670 - 17/03/2004 17:07 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: deadsled13]
jaypeeq
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Registered: 14/03/2003
Posts: 26
Loc: Syracuse NY
I usually rip at 212 using eac/ lame. and it sounds pretty good. If you go any lower there becomes a noticeable loss of extreme bass and highs.
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#209671 - 17/03/2004 17:27 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: jaypeeq]
deadsled13
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Registered: 11/02/2004
Posts: 93
Loc: NC
sounds good...is eac better than nero for ripping? whats the best?
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#209672 - 17/03/2004 18:01 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: deadsled13]
trs24
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Registered: 20/03/2002
Posts: 729
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
You should really check out that FAQ link that cushman posted for you earlier - it'll pretty much answer any question you might have. Luckily Tony hasn't come by this thread yet.

Also, a search on this forum for "best ripper" brought up this old thread.

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#209673 - 17/03/2004 18:06 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: trs24]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Lukily Tony hasn't come by this thread yet.
Actually, I have, just didn't respond. I wanted to say that "nobody supports MP3pro so what's the point", but I actually didn't have any facts to back that up. Anyone know if there's any serious devices out there that play mp3pro?
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#209674 - 17/03/2004 18:22 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?higher [Re: deadsled13]
pgrzelak
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Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Greetings!

If you have the disk space to support it, rip everything to FLAC. That way, you can transcode without loss to whatever format / bitrate you find you like, without having to re-rip everything. Trust me: you may start at what sounds like a good bit rate now, but you may decide you want to adjust it later.
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#209675 - 17/03/2004 18:24 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: tfabris]
deadsled13
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Registered: 11/02/2004
Posts: 93
Loc: NC
OK OK I'll check the FAQ...geez..cant a guy be lazy anymore!!
thanks again
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#209676 - 17/03/2004 19:04 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: deadsled13]
trs24
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Registered: 20/03/2002
Posts: 729
Loc: Palo Alto, CA
cant a guy be lazy anymore
Of course! That's exactly why we referred you to the FAQ.

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#209677 - 17/03/2004 21:07 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: deadsled13]
jarredduq
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Registered: 27/09/2000
Posts: 89
Loc: California, USA
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#209678 - 17/03/2004 21:08 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
As far as hardware, I believe that the only players to support it were the RCA Lyra ones. (Note that RCA/Thompson developed mp3pro.) There are software players, but I don't think that's really what you were asking about.

Check here.
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#209679 - 18/03/2004 09:50 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?hi [Re: wfaulk]
deadsled13
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Registered: 11/02/2004
Posts: 93
Loc: NC
ok...I used EAC to rip some cd's and encoded them no problem...but somewhere during the whole process I changed the priority of the ripping to high and it started ripping wma files instead of wav's and now eac wont convert them to mp3's.what did I do wrong? how can I xencode them to mp3?
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#209680 - 18/03/2004 18:48 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?higher [Re: edsmiata]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
160 WMA suits me fine in my Miata


Yes, but you know that causes alternator noise, don't you?


Juuussst kidding!

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#209681 - 18/03/2004 22:48 Re: Whats a good bitrate to rip my cd's at? 128?higher [Re: tanstaafl.]
JeffS
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Registered: 14/01/2002
Posts: 2858
Loc: Atlanta, GA
LOL
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