Okay i know the jemplode can talk to karam as well as empeg but how do i get 36gig from empeg into karma.

Can i just copy and paste my playlists

i haven't played with it yet so just wondering

Can i just copy and paste my playlists

Yes. Assuming that you've created RIDs on your Empeg for all tracks that don't have one (i.e., pretty much everything unless you used recent Jemplode versions to put them there in the first place).

Right now, you need RioRid.jar to do it and knowledge of the necessary command line parameters. I hope that one day, Mike can integrate the rid-rebuilding feature directly into Jemplode instead of requiring a separate app to do it.

that will be a no then

It's not that tough, just grab riorid.jar from here and the command line goes like this:

java -jar riorid.jar empeg <empeg-IP-address> " " missing

The first parameter, "empeg", tells it to use the empeg protocal instead of the Karma protocol. The second parameter is your empeg's IP address. The third parameter is the network password for your empeg if you have one, in my case I don't have one so it's " ". The last parameter, "missing", simply tells it to fill in RIDs that are missing rather than trying to re-do RIDs for the whole player.

Anyhoo, once you've done that, then you can copy and paste playlists straight from the empeg into the Karma, and it'll copy the playlists and the music files, or just the playlists if the files already exist.

> Okay i know the jemplode can talk to karam as well as
> empeg but how do i get 36gig from empeg into karma.

With a shoehorn?

-brendan

Big hammer would be better

okay i have taken the brave pills

Right what is the latest emplode and where is it hidden

The command line stuff is that in windows

or can i do it on the mac

Right what is the latest emplode and where is it hidden

I think you mean where is the latest Jemplode and that jemplode.jar file is hidden here:

http://www.inzyme.com/rio/empeg

Remember that you also need the RMM Lite Jar and the riorid jar from the site I linked above.

The command line stuff is that in windows or can i do it on the mac

I think you can do it on the mac, but I'm not sure exactly how it's done. I don't believe it starts with "java.exe -jar" any more, but I would guess the rest of it would be the same.

Okay it will be windoze then

don't forget KISS we have a mechanical engineer here the closest i get to programing in my job is changing cam timing which is damn tricky on a sulzer RTA fuel pump.

Okay, if you're on Windoze then make sure to install the latest version of Sun's Java Run Time Engine on that box before running it. (That's the "Java.exe" part of the command line.)

To do this on the Mac, download the files to your Desktop.

Then, open Terminal (in Applications/Utilities). From there, type:
cd Desktop
then
java -jar riorid.jar empeg <empeg-IP-address> " " missing

No neeed to worry about having Java downloaded and installed properly, since all the system updates Apple releases takes care of that.

Ah, kewl, thanks Tom.

There you go, Paul. No Windoze needed. Enjoy!

erm i get this it no look right

PaulPowerbook:~/desktop] paulalli% java -jar riorid.jar empeg 192.168.0.104 " " missing
java.lang.NoClassDefFoundError: org.jempeg.empeg.protocol.EmpegSynchronizeClient
at com.rio.riorid.Main.main(Main.java:56)
[PaulPowerbook:~/desktop] paulalli%

104 being the empeg

You also need the latest version of the Jar file for rmmlite in the same directory. It's available from the same page you got riorid at. Is that what the problem is?

fixed i didn't have jemplode on the desktop

Erm takes a bloody long time

Off for the unversal computer accelerator compound nice cup of tea

Oh yeah, heh, I forgot to tell you it would take a long time the first time you run it.

It's got to download the MP3 data from the file, perform some math on that data, then write the resulting checksum back to the tag. I don't know if it uses the entire MP3's worth of data, or if it only has to download a portion of it.

I don't know if it uses the entire MP3's worth of data, or if it only has to download a portion of it.

It only calculates the RID based on a portion of the MP3 data (a bit from each of the beginning, the end and the middle). Whether it downloads the entire MP3 is another question entirely.

From my experience, it seems to do the right thing with grabbing only the sub-portions of the files.

(was on 802.11b at the time, if it was the entire files, woulda taken a lot longer)

-brendan