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#219608 - 28/06/2004 12:46 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: BartDG]
g_attrill
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Come to think of it, there IS one minor annoyance I have with the search feature. When searching with the google toolbar, the words you seached for ended up on the toolbar. You could then easily search for those words in the found text by clicking them. This isn't possible with Firefox (or at least, I haven't found out how to do that yet). As I said, minor annoyance...

Are you using the Googlebar? That has a highlighter marker that does what you describe.

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#219609 - 28/06/2004 13:36 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Personally, I use keywords for searches. This allows me to kill the search bar and just go to the url bar and type "g empeg" to search Google for empeg, or "d loquacious" to look up a word in a dictionary. I haven't looked at the Google toolbar for Firefox, but the only thing I can think that I'd like to add that the IE toolbar has is the automatic highlighting, but that's only minor.

I've described the keyword thing on the BBS before. I don't think it should be too hard to search for.

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#219610 - 28/06/2004 14:00 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: BartDG]
Dignan
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When searching with the google toolbar, the words you seached for ended up on the toolbar.
Are you sure that's not there? Maybe you don't have the latest version. What I think you're talking about was enabled by default on my toolbar. I hate that so I turned it off. Try right-clicking on the toolbar and making sure that "Search Words" is checked.

So far I like how fast Firefox is at browsing pages. The thing I don't like is the rigidity of the toolbars. Toolbars in IE are pretty much free to move anywhere you like. It was nice because I could puit the Google bar on the same horizontal space as another toolbar that wasn't taking up the whole width of the screen. I understand that this Google toolbar is just a plugin, but it would be nice to be able to move any of these items around. It just seems very unflexible.

There appears to be another feature of the IE toolbar missing that nobody has said. Maybe I'm the only one who uses the Autofill feature, but I love it.
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#219611 - 28/06/2004 14:01 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: davec]
drakino
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Well, I broke my FIrefox install big time. I added a bunch of extensions and restarted FIrefox, now I get no window. firefox.exe shows up in the processes, but not in the applications window of the Task Manager.
Off to the Firefox Support Forum, unless someone here knows how to fix it. I uninstalled, deleted and reinstalled, but no joy...



I think extensions are held in your profile, and not the install directory. So on Windows, check c:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\default\randomstring\extensions

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#219612 - 28/06/2004 14:18 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: g_attrill]
BartDG
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Are you using the Googlebar?



No, I'm using the regular Google/searcher plugin. I only found out about the Googlebar Plugin this morning by reading this thread. I'll give it a go later today. Thanks.
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#219613 - 28/06/2004 14:20 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: Dignan]
BartDG
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Are you sure that's not there? Maybe you don't have the latest version. What I think you're talking about was enabled by default on my toolbar. I hate that so I turned it off. Try right-clicking on the toolbar and making sure that "Search Words" is checked.



My guess is that you're probably referring to the Googlebar too, while I'm still using the regular searcher on the top right hand side of the screen (next to the URL locator). I'll give that Googlebar a try later on today. It looks exactly like the IE version, so I'm pretty sure it'll be OK.
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#219614 - 28/06/2004 15:36 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: BartDG]
Dignan
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It looks exactly like the IE version, so I'm pretty sure it'll be OK.

Looks like, but really isn't. The authors are trying to make it seem like the complete Google bar plus a whole lot of other features, but while some of those are okay, I still miss some of the features and really miss some of the options of the IE version. For one thing, I don't know why they don't have an option to use smaller icons! This is really bugging me. There's all this grey space taken up by icons that don't even fill it. So far I'm not impressed by the customization of the toolbars, like I said earlier. IE can get its toolbars much smaller.



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#219615 - 28/06/2004 16:34 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: Dignan]
ninti
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All the space is just in that new and horrible default theme they are using. Try going through and picking a different theme where those icons are better placed, and will be prettier to boot.

http://www.texturizer.net/firefox/themes/
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#219616 - 28/06/2004 17:23 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: drakino]
davec
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I think extensions are held in your profile, and not the install directory. So on Windows, check c:\Documents and Settings\username\Application Data\Mozilla\Firefox\default\randomstring\extensions


I thought I did that once, but I think I was just creating a user.js and didn't ever delete the directory. Anyways It appears that I installed an extension (Launchy 3.0) that requires JSLib first... as it states here

Oops... I got all extension-install happy and didn't read the comments first...

I'll have a go at fixing it when I get home tonight. using Firefox at work now. Still gotta use Exchange for mail @ work, though.
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#219617 - 28/06/2004 17:47 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: ninti]
Dignan
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All the space is just in that new and horrible default theme they are using. Try going through and picking a different theme where those icons are better placed, and will be prettier to boot.

http://www.texturizer.net/firefox/themes/

Thanks for the tip. That makes sense. Unfortunately, that site doesn't seem to be working. When I loaded it, it said there were 0 themes available. Is anyone else getting that? Are there any other sites for themes?
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#219618 - 28/06/2004 17:50 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: ninti]
g_attrill
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Try going through and picking a different theme where those icons are better placed, and will be prettier to boot.

I've been using Qute for ages (it was the standard theme) and would recommend it to everybody:

http://update.mozilla.org/themes/moreinfo.php?id=7

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#219619 - 28/06/2004 17:52 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: Dignan]
davec
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I like this extension

if you go to Tools -> Themes on your FF toolbar, then click 'Get More Themes' in the Themes window it will take you to a page with several themes. I like Qute as well.
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#219620 - 28/06/2004 18:10 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: davec]
Dignan
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I eventually saw that and installed a few to try them out. I have Nokia installed at the moment, I think. I've never been a big fan of skins or themes, but if it gets the toolbars smaller, that's fine with me. This one did shrink the Googlebar and that's fine with me.

I have another Firefox question. I'm hoping there's an option for this somewhere: in IE, if you are viewing a page and type Ctrl+N you get a new window which then loads the same page you're viewing. At the moment, Firefox only opens a new window and goes to your home page. Can I change this?
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#219621 - 28/06/2004 19:55 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: Dignan]
ninti
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if you are viewing a page and type Ctrl+N you get a new window which then loads the same page you're viewing.


Hmm, there is a duplicate tab option that you get when installing the tab browsing extensions. You can try the clone window extension, it looks like what you want but I have never personally used it: http://www.pikey.me.uk/mozilla/?extension=cw

Dunno why you are having problems with that theme page site, I use it all the time and have never had that error. They have the best extensions area too IMHO, if you can get in: http://www.texturizer.net/firefox/extensions/

You could try the official mozilla theme and extension site, but it really does kind of suck: http://update.mozilla.org/
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#219622 - 28/06/2004 20:17 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: ninti]
Dignan
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Hmm, there is a duplicate tab option that you get when installing the tab browsing extensions. You can try the clone window extension, it looks like what you want but I have never personally used it:

Thanks, that does exactly what I want. I appreciate the link. I thought it might be possible with tabs, but I don't like tabs.

I'm really starting to like this now. I may give Thunderbird a try. I tried both of these programs a revision or two ago and didn't like them. Now I do.

Now I just need to try to get Firefox to work with my keyboard's iTouch software.

Thanks again.
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#219623 - 13/07/2004 14:14 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: JBjorgen]
drakino
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4 new IE vunerabilities allowing any code to be run. Oh, one of these works on the "secure" IE included in Windows XP SP2. So much for that being the holy grail of security for Windows users, with exploits before it ships.

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#219624 - 13/07/2004 16:21 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: tfabris]
Dylan
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Really nice of ZDNet to make sure that the article covers the important stuff, like what the vulnerability is exactly, or how to detect if you've been infected. Because without that, the article serves little purpose other than to panic users...


Time to raise the IE Threat Advisory to orange.

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#219625 - 14/07/2004 03:56 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: drakino]
Waterman981
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And of course 5 critical updates for XP issued the same day.
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#219626 - 14/07/2004 05:29 Re: Thank-you Microsoft [Re: Waterman981]
Roger
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issued the same day.


Well, obviously. Microsoft only issue patches once a month, so they're going to come out on the same day. What's your point?
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