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#23013 - 26/11/2000 06:33 Nomad Jukebox from Creative
andrew walker
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Registered: 25/07/1999
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Loc: Midlands, UK
For those interested in the Nomad Jukebox there's a good review here

http://www4.tomshardware.com/consumer/00q4/001110/index.html

if not try www.tomshardware.com

what is the consensus on this board about it?


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#23014 - 26/11/2000 14:59 Re: Nomad Jukebox from Creative [Re: andrew walker]
muzza
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Registered: 21/07/1999
Posts: 1765
Loc: Brisbane, Queensland, Australi...
Great review! VERY detailed.
interesting to see their reaction to the transfer back button being disbled. I doubt we'll see it being enabled or even included in future updates.


can or has the empeg been seen by these guys?

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#23015 - 26/11/2000 15:13 Re: Nomad Jukebox from Creative [Re: muzza]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
That is an interesting review.. the Nomad was slated by several tech reviewers when it came out due to poor player software. I believe that speed was the main issue, although I have heard of other problems.

I'm not sure if Creative have updated the software, or if this reviewer isn't so fussy. He seems unconcerned by the fact the player will take 3 - 4 minutes to boot (!) if you fitted a 20Gb drive and filled it with music.

I wonder if this reviewer has actually seen a PJB100? Or any other hard drive based player for that matter.. he seems to think it's a new idea.

Rob



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#23016 - 27/11/2000 22:48 Re: Nomad Jukebox from Creative [Re: rob]
PaulWay
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Registered: 03/08/1999
Posts: 451
Loc: Canberra, Australia
In reply to:

He seems unconcerned by the fact the player will take 3 - 4 minutes to boot (!) if you fitted a 20Gb drive and filled it with music.


I got the impression that that happened only on the first time you started; once it'd done it's 'review' it didn't need to do it again. But that might be fact-free optimism.

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#23017 - 28/11/2000 02:34 Re: Nomad Jukebox from Creative [Re: rob]
debauch
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Registered: 22/03/2000
Posts: 217
Loc: West Midlands, England
In reply to:

He seems unconcerned by the fact the player will take 3 - 4 minutes to boot (!) if you fitted a 20Gb drive and filled it with music.


As opposed to the 'go and get a cup of tea, have a quick snooze and then read the paper' length of time the Empeg takes whenever it chooses to do a disk check or even when it decides to rebuild the database?

Now don't get me wrong, I'm not complaining, just stating that in doing certain things, the Empeg takes its time too.

Nick.


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#23018 - 28/11/2000 02:35 Re: Nomad Jukebox from Creative [Re: PaulWay]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
But that might be fact-free optimism..

It is. At least on the Nomad that n6mod showed us when he stopped by the office a few weeks ago. They might have changed the software since then. However, it took 25 seconds just to get the OS up and running...




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#23019 - 28/11/2000 03:36 Re: Nomad Jukebox from Creative [Re: debauch]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
Yeah point taken - but the empeg doesn't do that every time you switch it on.

Rob



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#23020 - 28/11/2000 13:18 Re: Nomad Jukebox from Creative [Re: rob]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5546
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
but the empeg doesn't do that every time you switch it on.


That leads me to the question: When does the empeg do that? Is it after X number of re-synchs? Is it after X number of playing minutes? Is it after X number of disk sectors are filled? Is it after a random time seeded by the sum of the digits on the license plate of Hugo's Miata?

I notice that the older (read: more filled) my empeg gets, the longer it takes to complete this process. So is it only checking those sectors with files in them?

Will there ever be an option to postpone the disk check, perhaps just a yes/no dialog box before the check begins? And how long does it take Rod (aka: mardibloke) to disk check his 64 GB empeg?

tanstaafl.



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#23021 - 28/11/2000 13:26 Re: Nomad Jukebox from Creative [Re: tanstaafl.]
mardibloke
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Registered: 14/08/2000
Posts: 468
Loc: Penarth, UK
Only about 20gig full so far ( but recently many late nights getting my CD collection over to MP3 ! ), so far no problems with disk checking ( next time it does it I will time it ) noted so far.

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