#258851 - 28/06/2005 23:55
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Sorry- my bad. PM'd you too late...
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#258852 - 29/06/2005 00:05
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: tman]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Name Qty Part
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Michael Tempsch 1 Rotary encoder (MkIIa)
Rob Riccardelli 3 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Stig Østvang 4 Handle springs (2 sets)
Stig Østvang 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Brad B. 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31 1 Original factory blue lens
FireFox31 ? Darkstorm raised lenses, perhaps?
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2)
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
Schido 1 Mk1 Docking Connector
Schido ? Lenses for mk1 (other then amber)
Schido 1 Drive cable (mk1)
Jessie 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a) 1 drive cable
Kjohanss 1 Front panel (mk2) with screws
andym 1 Fascia (mk2)
Firefox31, for JBjorgen 1 Fascia (mk2)
FireFox31, for TFabris 4 Mk2/a handle springs
Roger, for tman 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 4 Mk2/a handle springs
Such a noob am I. Wasn't clear to me how this was supposed to work. <embarrassed>
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#258853 - 29/06/2005 00:08
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: Robotic]
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Carpal Tunnel
Registered: 08/02/2002
Posts: 3411
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Code:
Name Qty Part
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Michael Tempsch 1 Rotary encoder (MkIIa)
Rob Riccardelli 3 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Stig Østvang 4 Handle springs (2 sets)
Stig Østvang 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Brad B. 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31 1 Original factory blue lens
FireFox31 ? Darkstorm raised lenses, perhaps?
Firefox31, for genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2)
Firefox31, for genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
Schido 1 Mk1 Docking Connector
Schido ? Lenses for mk1 (other then amber)
Schido 1 Drive cable (mk1)
Jessie 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a) 1 drive cable
Kjohanss 1 Front panel (mk2) with screws
andym 1 Fascia (mk2)
Firefox31, for JBjorgen 1 Fascia (mk2)
FireFox31, for TFabris 4 Mk2/a handle springs
Roger, for tman 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 4 Mk2/a handle springs
I'll hold off on ordering my greenlight buttons until after the meet 
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#258854 - 29/06/2005 01:15
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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Eutronix only lists audio boards, light kits, cables, screws and washers on their site (and services).
Are there mka encoders to be had?
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#258855 - 29/06/2005 12:40
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
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journeyman
Registered: 24/10/2000
Posts: 65
Loc: Bjørkelangen, Norway
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Will it be possible to buy Eutronix light kit at the meet? And and have it installed at the meet as well?
Edited by kjohanss (29/06/2005 12:45)
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#258856 - 29/06/2005 12:56
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: kjohanss]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
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Not unless someone brings one over for the bring and buy. I doubt anyone will be in the mood to do any soldering either.
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#258857 - 29/06/2005 15:28
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: kjohanss]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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If you bring the kit and player, and leave it with me to be worked on, that's OK. However, as previously stated, I am not going to do any repair work at the event - simply too much to do myself.
So to summarise: anyone wanting repair or upgrade work may bring players on the basis of leaving it behind for later posting on. You will also need to bring the packaging for later return posting: bring lighting kits, buttons, memory boards, tuners, etc. with you for fitting.
I would suggest another thread gets started for owners planning to do this: a description of the work needed and a player type would help.
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#258858 - 29/06/2005 21:07
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: schofiel]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Rob-
What is the cost of the springs and how can I make a remote payment? (PayPal, etc)
Wish I could go and get the parts myself- it's sure to be a great meet!
Stew
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10101311 (20GB- backup empeg)
10101466 (2x60GB, Eutronix/GreenLights Blue) (Stolen!)
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#258859 - 29/06/2005 22:08
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: Robotic]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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Actually, this is silly of me. I can't make Rob handle all these little payments when he's so busy.
Instead, at the meet, I'll buy all the parts that are requested by the American owners. Then, you can simply PayPal me when I get back. Clearly, this will be much easier.
The catch, have your requests posted here by Friday night, because I'm leaving Sunday. Sorry for ALL the confusion I've caused by trying to help, but this solution will work much better.
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- FireFox31 110gig MKIIa (30+80), Eutronix lights, 32 meg stacked RAM, Filener orange gel lens, Greenlights Lit Buttons green set
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#258860 - 30/06/2005 03:07
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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Sorry for ALL the confusion I've caused by trying to help, but this solution will work much better.
Don't be silly. You're being very generous with your time. If we can get some prices, I'd like to pay you in advanced.
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#258861 - 30/06/2005 14:00
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: SE_Sport_Driver]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Don't be silly. You're being very generous with your time. If we can get some prices, I'd like to pay you in advanced.
Agreed- the offer is very generous!
TIA!
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10101311 (20GB- backup empeg)
10101466 (2x60GB, Eutronix/GreenLights Blue) (Stolen!)
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#258862 - 01/07/2005 14:07
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: Robotic]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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OK, unless I am corrected in the next hour or so, this is the definitive parts list: Code:
Name Qty Part
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Michael Tempsch 1 Rotary encoder (MkIIa)
Rob Riccardelli 3 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Stig Østvang 4 Handle springs (2 sets)
Stig Østvang 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Brad B. 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31 1 Original factory blue lens
FireFox31 ? Darkstorm raised lenses, perhaps?
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2)
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
Schido 1 Mk1 Docking Connector
Schido ? Lenses for mk1 (other then amber)
Schido 1 Drive cable (mk1)
Jessie 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a) 1 drive cable
Kjohanss 1 Front panel (mk2) with screws
andym 1 Fascia (mk2)
Firefox31, for JBjorgen 1 Fascia (mk2)
FireFox31, for TFabris 4 Mk2/a handle springs
???, for tman 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 4 Mk2/a handle springs
FireFox31, for Robotic 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 2 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
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#258863 - 01/07/2005 14:58
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: schofiel]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Looks good to me. Roger is picking up the encoder for me. How did you want us to pay for the bits?
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#258864 - 02/07/2005 21:23
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: tman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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I will sort this with the collectors of the parts.
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#258865 - 03/07/2005 00:53
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: mtempsch]
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member
Registered: 10/10/2001
Posts: 105
Loc: Wellington NZ
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Hey guys;
Think Im missing something here; who has the rotary encoders for sale? Where is he/she located? Being located here in the southern hemisphere, I can't make it to amersfoot either. So is anyone selling them outside of Amersfoot?
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ToolPeg: 010101886 Mk2a 120Gb
GrillPeg: 010101956 Mk2a 80gb
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#258866 - 03/07/2005 03:36
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: tman]
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addict
Registered: 04/09/2004
Posts: 527
Loc: Oklahoma
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Quote:
Code:
Name Qty Part
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Michael Tempsch 1 Rotary encoder (MkIIa)
Rob Riccardelli 3 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Stig Østvang 4 Handle springs (2 sets)
Stig Østvang 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Brad B. 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31 1 Original factory blue lens
FireFox31 ? Darkstorm raised lenses, perhaps?
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2)
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
Schido 1 Mk1 Docking Connector
Schido ? Lenses for mk1 (other then amber)
Schido 1 Drive cable (mk1)
Jessie 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a) 1 drive cable
Kjohanss 1 Front panel (mk2) with screws
andym 1 Fascia (mk2)
Firefox31, for JBjorgen 1 Fascia (mk2)
FireFox31, for TFabris 4 Mk2/a handle springs
Roger, for tman 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 4 Mk2/a handle springs
FireFox31, for Robotic 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 2 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
David Whittaker MK2 Handle
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#258867 - 03/07/2005 12:08
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: toolman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14497
Loc: Canada
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Quote:
Hey guys;
Think Im missing something here; who has the rotary encoders for sale? Where is he/she located? Being located here in the southern hemisphere, I can't make it to amersfoot either. So is anyone selling them outside of Amersfoot?
I can air-mail you a Mk2 rotary encoder, if that's the type you need (as opposed to a Mk2a encoder).
-ml
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#258868 - 03/07/2005 13:27
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: tman]
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addict
Registered: 04/09/2004
Posts: 527
Loc: Oklahoma
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Quote:
Code:
Name Qty Part
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Michael Tempsch 1 Rotary encoder (MkIIa)
Rob Riccardelli 3 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Stig Østvang 4 Handle springs (2 sets)
Stig Østvang 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Brad B. 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31 1 Original factory blue lens
FireFox31 ? Darkstorm raised lenses, perhaps?
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2)
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
Schido 1 Mk1 Docking Connector
Schido ? Lenses for mk1 (other then amber)
Schido 1 Drive cable (mk1)
Jessie 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a) 1 drive cable
Kjohanss 1 Front panel (mk2) with screws
andym 1 Fascia (mk2)
Firefox31, for JBjorgen 1 Fascia (mk2)
FireFox31, for TFabris 4 Mk2/a handle springs
Roger, for tman 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 4 Mk2/a handle springs
FireFox31, for Robotic 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 2 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Ladmo Mk2a handle, springs, and latches if possible
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#258869 - 03/07/2005 20:00
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: Ladmo]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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Code:
Name Qty Part
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Michael Tempsch 1 Rotary encoder (MkIIa)
Rob Riccardelli 3 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Stig Østvang 4 Handle springs (2 sets)
Stig Østvang 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Brad B. 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Brad B. 1 Handle spring set
FireFox31 1 Original factory blue lens
FireFox31 ? Darkstorm raised lenses, perhaps?
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2)
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
Schido 1 Mk1 Docking Connector
Schido ? Lenses for mk1 (other then amber)
Schido 1 Drive cable (mk1)
Jessie 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a) 1 drive cable
Kjohanss 1 Front panel (mk2) with screws
andym 1 Fascia (mk2)
Firefox31, for JBjorgen 1 Fascia (mk2)
FireFox31, for TFabris 4 Mk2/a handle springs
Roger, for tman 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 4 Mk2/a handle springs
FireFox31, for Robotic 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Robotic 2 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Ladmo 1 Mk2a handle
Ladmo 1 Handle spring pair
Ladmo 1 Handle latches if possible
I seperated your items DW and added a set of springs for myself (rattle).
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#258870 - 04/07/2005 10:07
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: mlord]
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enthusiast
Registered: 30/01/2000
Posts: 262
Loc: Derbyshire, UK
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I can air-mail you a Mk2 rotary encoder, if that's the type you need (as opposed to a Mk2a encoder).
-ml
Is there a benefit to replacing a Mk2 encoder with a Mk2 encoder or would it be better to go for the Mk2a?
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Steve
2x80GB Mk II with Illuminated buttons
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#258871 - 04/07/2005 10:29
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: srhodes]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14497
Loc: Canada
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Best to replace with the exact same kind.
One of them uses a through-hole mount (and the Displayboard is drilled for that), and the other is surface mount (and the displayboard is not drilled).
-ml
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#258872 - 04/07/2005 15:32
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: srhodes]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
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Is there a benefit to replacing a Mk2 encoder with a Mk2 encoder or would it be better to go for the Mk2a?
As Mark just said, the encoders have two different mounting systems (2=Surface 2A=Through), so the repair job is easiest if you replace like-for-like.
Also worth noting: The shaft of the encoder is shaped differently for the 2A unit, and unless you have an extra 2A knob lying around, you're not going to be able to fit your 2 knob onto the 2A shaft properly.
That said, if you've got an extra 2A knob, and you're willing to take a few serious risks in the procedure, it is *possible* to fit a 2A encoder onto a 2 displayboard. I've done it.
It involves carefully trimming the pins on the 2A encoder, then soldering it onto the surface-mount pads on the 2 displayboard. Then desoldering it and doing it all over again because without the through-holes to align it, you can't get it straight and in the correct position. Repeat until it's straight and in the correct position, each time risking damage to the displayboard or the VFD.
The benefit in the end is:
- 2A knob is keyed and less fiddly, so there's no chance the knob will slip on the encoder shaft.
- 2A encoder has a different feel in terms of rotation. It is stiffer and more solid in its operation, and does not make an audible clicking noise when you turn it.
- 2A encoder has a different feel in terms of knob-press-button. It requires a harder and more deliberate press to push the button. This reduces the chance that you'll accidentally press the knob when you were just reaching up to turn down the volume. I used to do that all the time with the 2, and it hasn't happened to me since I put the 2A encoder on.
The only disadvantage I can see (other than the difficulty and risk in fitting the part) is the keyed shaft shape is visible through a translucent backlit knob, so it looks asymmetrical.
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#258873 - 05/07/2005 09:33
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: tfabris]
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enthusiast
Registered: 30/01/2000
Posts: 262
Loc: Derbyshire, UK
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Thanks for the replies. I'm going to see if Rob would be willing to do it at the same time as fitting an illumination kit. I've got 2 and 2a translucent buttons. I guess I'll leave it to Rob to decide which he wants to do but sounds like 2a would be the preference.
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2x80GB Mk II with Illuminated buttons
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#258874 - 06/07/2005 05:22
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: mlord]
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member
Registered: 10/10/2001
Posts: 105
Loc: Wellington NZ
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I can air-mail you a Mk2 rotary encoder, if that's the type you need (as opposed to a Mk2a encoder).
-ml
Can anyone send me a mk2a? ( i mean aside from the scheming to get them in bulk at amersfoot) Maybe my question wasnt well worded. Im just trying to figure out if mk2a rotaries are available in general from someone..
Edited by toolman (06/07/2005 05:24)
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GrillPeg: 010101956 Mk2a 80gb
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#258875 - 06/07/2005 13:58
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: srhodes]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
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The only real reason for wanting to use a different type in place of the ooriginal would be in case there was no available source.
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#258876 - 08/07/2005 12:01
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: tfabris]
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old hand
Registered: 30/07/2000
Posts: 879
Loc: Germany (Ruhrgebiet)
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Though I'm quite late, perhaps it is still possible to add my needs: Code:
Name Qty Part
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Michael Tempsch 1 Rotary encoder (MkIIa)
Rob Riccardelli 3 Drive cables (Mk2/2a)
Stig Østvang 4 Handle springs (2 sets)
Stig Østvang 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31, for Brad B. 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
FireFox31 1 Original factory blue lens
FireFox31 ? Darkstorm raised lenses, perhaps?
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2)
genixia 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
Schido 1 Mk1 Docking Connector
Schido ? Lenses for mk1 (other then amber)
Schido 1 Drive cable (mk1)
Jessie 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a) 1 drive cable
Kjohanss 1 Front panel (mk2) with screws
FireFox31, for TFabris 4 Mk2/a handle springs
smu 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2)
smu 1 Rotary Encoder (Mk2a)
cu tonight, sven
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#258877 - 18/07/2005 00:27
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: mtempsch]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
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I'm back from my extra week in Europe after the empeg meet (and I've been up for 24 hours and am about to pass out). I bought all the parts from Rob that were requested by the American empeg owners in this thread. Later this week, I will contact eveeryone who wanted parts to arrange for payment and shipping. Watch for e-mail and/or PMs.
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#258878 - 18/07/2005 00:36
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: FireFox31]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 05/01/2001
Posts: 4903
Loc: Detroit, MI USA
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Thank you so much!  I put in an order for buttons while you were gone. If it's easier, you can ship them together. Otherwise, I don't mind waiting.
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Brad B.
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#258879 - 18/07/2005 00:40
Re: Amersfoort 2005 - spare parts wanted thread
[Re: FireFox31]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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Thank you!
I'll be placing an order for buttons soon- so that shipping can be combined.
Oh, WOW! Parts! Anyone for a Christmas Carol?
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10101311 (20GB- backup empeg)
10101466 (2x60GB, Eutronix/GreenLights Blue) (Stolen!)
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