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#2605 - 26/04/2000 18:23 Voice Recognition
ClemsonJeep
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Registered: 09/11/1999
Posts: 398
Loc: Ashburn, VA
Hey guys, I don't think it's ever really been clarified about how exactly the Voice Recognition will work on the Mk2's. Is this purposeful or is it still under development?

My dream would be being able to say "empeg. Less Than Jake. Shuffle." and it play all my LTJ tracks shuffled, or "empeg. Radio." to switch to radio mode. Maybe even "empeg. Tune to 93.3.".

How far-fetched is this? Or how is it going to work?

/me is getting antsy as June approaches.....

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#2606 - 02/05/2000 01:09 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: ClemsonJeep]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12341
Loc: Sterling, VA
Has this question been answered already? Why hasn't anyone replied to him? Did I miss the explanation somewhere?

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#2607 - 02/05/2000 15:10 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: Dignan]
rob
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Registered: 21/05/1999
Posts: 5335
Loc: Cambridge UK
The developer primarily responsible for Voice Recognition on the car player is currently locked away working on another project with extremely tight deadlines. He probably doesn't have much time to read the BBS at the moment!

We'll announce more voice recognition details nearer the launch of the Mark 2.

Rob



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#2608 - 02/05/2000 16:33 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: rob]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
The developer primarily responsible for Voice Recognition on the car player is currently locked away working on another project with extremely tight deadlines.

Make sure to slide some food and water under the door for him once in a while.

Tony Fabris
Empeg #144
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#2609 - 02/05/2000 19:16 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: tfabris]
dionysus
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Registered: 16/06/1999
Posts: 1222
Loc: San Francisco, CA
Make sure to slide some food and water under the door for him once in a while.

...only drop some caffiene pills in his water...
-m

...proud to have one of the first Mark I units
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#2610 - 06/05/2000 10:52 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: tfabris]
mcomb
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Registered: 31/08/1999
Posts: 1649
Loc: San Carlos, CA
Pizza is of course the ideal food for this since it comes in a flat box that can easily be inserted under the door. I find that beer or a caffeine based beverage are actually more usefull than water when it comes to enhancing programming skills. Unfortunately a pint of Guinness can be a little harder to fit under the door :-)

-Mike

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#2611 - 09/05/2000 14:33 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: ClemsonJeep]
eternalsun
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Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
Less than Jake? That sounds utterly weird!

How about...

Empeg! Classical Music, baroque style, random artists, lively pieces only.

Empeg! Pause! Now play the next 10 seconds in reverse repeatedly.

Empeg! Play this current song only through the left front speaker. Play the next song in the playlist through the right front speaker. Mix them to sound good.

Empeg! Adjust for road noise.

Empeg! Play all the songs that sound like this one.

Empeg! Remove the drum track from this song.

Empeg! Karoke mode.

Empeg! I'm going to take a nap, take over the steering.

Calvin


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#2612 - 09/05/2000 15:06 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: eternalsun]
Alexander
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Registered: 02/05/2000
Posts: 108
Loc: SF Bay Area
Wait 20 years, and this will probably work.

About the only reason I haven't committed suicide yet. ;)

Empeg! Order me a pizza, delivered to the car.

Alex


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#2613 - 10/05/2000 08:47 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: Alexander]
JeepBastard
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Registered: 08/09/1999
Posts: 364
Loc: Brooklyn
I really think it would be corny and monotonus to keep saying EMPEG! ..
I'd much rather say just Play Some Hip-Hop and it would play my hip-hop playlist.. or Play The Hot Shit.. and it would play my playlist "hot Shit!"

I hope you make it configurable where u can change the voice command to suit you.. So i can make it as complex or as simple as I want it.



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#2614 - 10/05/2000 09:35 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: JeepBastard]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
One of the problems with a voice recognition computer is that you don't want it to respond to every piece of conversation you have. An in-car computer can't tell whether you're talking to it or talking to the person in the back seat. Hence the need for a command prefix. I don't know if the Mark 2 will need one or not, I'm just saying that's why everyone assumes we'll have to say "Empeg" before each command.

I always thought this was an inconsistency in Star Trek. When talking to the computer, they would prefix their commands with "Computer". But when they got onto the elevator, they would just say "Deck ten". How does the elevator know that they're not just having a conversation about the sexy young ensign they just met on deck ten?

Tony Fabris
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#2615 - 10/05/2000 13:41 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: tfabris]
eternalsun
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Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
Tone and inflection. Current voice recognition systems (of this type) require a command word to clue in that it should be accepting commands. Future voice recognition systems will rely on tone and inflection. The same way when you talk to a baby in a "baby voice" it understands you are speaking to it. Or when you're talking to a dog, other humans around you, even blind humans, will not mistake it for a conversation! Some day computers will do the same, and humans will adopt a "command mode" voice for interfacing with computers. I read some early prototypes are using "whispering" voices to indicate command mode.

Calvin


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#2616 - 10/05/2000 20:46 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: eternalsun]
JeepBastard
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Registered: 08/09/1999
Posts: 364
Loc: Brooklyn
i would prefer the option , to just have it interpret it from regular conversation whenever i want it to. rather than be stuck saying EMPEG. I want the option to switch the command preface to EMPEG , or Sharon , or anything i wish.. or nothing at all.

I think that a choice is extremely important. That's why im trying to mention it now before they make a hard-coded version which i think is undesirable. As a consumer , i want as many options as i can get. In software implementations , i know that many options are configurable if they develop it that way.


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#2617 - 10/05/2000 23:58 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: JeepBastard]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Keep in mind that they're licensing the voice recognition from a third party. There's a possibility that Empeg won't have much control over how you have to talk to it.

Tony Fabris
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#2618 - 11/05/2000 01:24 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: tfabris]
Alexander
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Registered: 02/05/2000
Posts: 108
Loc: SF Bay Area
The speech recognition API in the MacOS does this in what I think is the most logical way -- you give the software a command dictionary of words or phrases that it should understand, and it just lets you know when it hears one of the commands it knows about. Works pretty well, too.

IMHO, this is the way the Empeg SHOULD work, since this would prevent having to record each of your playlist names for it to compare -- it should know your playlists, and be able to do speaker-independent recognition based on that. Again, since you're not doing continuous dictation of arbitrary works, reliability is good.

Alex


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#2619 - 11/05/2000 12:43 Re: Voice Recognition [Re: Alexander]
eternalsun
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Registered: 09/09/1999
Posts: 1721
Loc: San Jose, CA
The Macintosh isn't designed to work in a high noise environment either. You'd be surprised how badly a generic voice recognition can be with a high enough noise level, for example, a car rolling along a highway.

Calvin


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