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#262627 - 12/08/2005 02:44 Getting out of the car
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
I'm not sure which stage of my lobotomy went horribly wrong, but it has caused me to be nearly incapable of getting out of a car. For years, no, more like a decade, I've been woefully unable to get out of a car (from any door) without straining, twisting, pushing, pulling, and distorting myself in horrible ways that would make a Yoga master blush (or be proud, whichever).

Maybe I just got that question wrong on my drivers ed test, but how DO you get out of a car? Including the sub-question, how do you get out of a car with your hands full of stuff and even more stuff under your arms? That is a notably arduous task.


Ok, so I didn't get a lobotomy, but I just finished a two hour "photo shoot" of lit buttons in the dark in my car, my eyes are so tired they feel like they're bleeding, and it took me a good 20 seconds to twist and wrench myself out of that darn car seat to a full standing position. No replies necessary, I just felt like mentioning this.
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#262628 - 12/08/2005 03:02 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: FireFox31]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31584
Loc: Seattle, WA
Well, I had trouble getting IN to my cars for a long time. Always seemed to bang my knee on the corner of the dashboard that protrudes past the outline of the door frame. Took me years to learn how to get around that.
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#262629 - 12/08/2005 03:18 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: FireFox31]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
You have an empeg...

...why are you getting out of the car?
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#262630 - 12/08/2005 10:05 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: FireFox31]
Ladmo
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Registered: 04/09/2004
Posts: 524
Loc: Oklahoma
I started have trouble getting in and out of the car starting when I hit about 40 (yeah, I'm an old fart!)...and I figured out what caused it!!!!
That is when I got fat...not just a bit, but like added almost 50 lbs to my optimum weight. That is also when I started having trouble with my knees about two years after that...now it is the diet and exercise...well ok...exercise and careful about eating...diet sounds so 'Hollywood'!

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#262631 - 12/08/2005 14:05 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: FireFox31]
Dignan
carpal tunnel

Registered: 08/03/2000
Posts: 12324
Loc: Sterling, VA
Well I think the obvious question/answer is: what kind of car??

For the last 4 years or so, I've been driving a Honda Odyssey, and getting in and out of the car couldn't be easier. I'm not sure how to explain it, but to get in, I neither have to drop down or climb up - it's the perfect height.

Not that in a million years I would suggest anyone get a minivan if they don't want one. I, on the other hand, am a very odd person, and love my minivan to death.
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#262632 - 12/08/2005 14:13 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: Dignan]
peter
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4175
Loc: Cambridge, England
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Well I think the obvious question/answer is: what kind of car??

Yeah, I've hopefully got a few more decades ahead of me of being able to get in and out of normal cars easily, but my brother's Lotus Elise is very difficult (especially as you're not supposed to step on the one bit that it would be helpful to step on) and Hugo's Noble an utter nightmare -- that latter not being helped by the seats being set up for the somewhat diddy Fiennes couple, which left me feeling a bit like Dirk Gently's sofa as it was only the fact that I'd somehow got in, that stopped me giving up trying to get out.

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#262633 - 12/08/2005 14:33 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: FireFox31]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
I usualy get the stuff I want to take with my together and get out and turn around and get it. It's much easier to just put everything on the back seat and open the back door to grab it all.

My dad has learned to take advantage of the seat memory of his vehicle, and presses the seccond driver button when he wants to get out and it slides to seat all the way back. Then when he gets in he presses the first driver button and it moves the seat back to the front. I think my mother has reclaimed the seccond driver position of presets, but I know he was using this for a while.

The Lexus GS (previous revision, I don't know about the new one) moves the steering wheel up and out of the way every time you take the key out of the ignition.

Matthew

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#262634 - 12/08/2005 15:26 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: Dignan]
jmwking
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Registered: 27/02/2003
Posts: 770
Loc: Washington, DC metro
My mother has very bad arthritis in her knees and can't take the good meds for it. We test drove (or more accurately, test "got into and out of" at least two dozen models before she decided - when it came out - a Honda Pilot had the perfect height and, perhaps more importantly, door width. Most of them were too narrow, and she couldn't bend her left knee enough to swing it through.

-jk

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#262635 - 12/08/2005 15:54 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: matthew_k]
matthew_k
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Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
One more thing I forgot to mention, two door cars have much bigger doors than four door cars, which can make them easier to get into. I don't know when that starts making a difference, but I did know one very large person who would only drive two door cars.

Matthew

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#262636 - 12/08/2005 16:26 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: FireFox31]
cushman
veteran

Registered: 21/01/2002
Posts: 1380
Loc: Erie, CO
I think the obvious solution for anyone who has problems getting in/out of a car is to buy a scooter.
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#262637 - 12/08/2005 16:35 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: matthew_k]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Sadly, two door cars have longer doors, making them much more challenging in tight parking lots. If another car parks too close to you, you need to be a bit acrobatic to get in. As a very large person, two doors are nice, but it sometimes is not pretty...
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#262638 - 12/08/2005 16:44 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: cushman]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
Quote:
I think the obvious solution for anyone who has problems getting in/out of a car is to buy a scooter.


No surprise coming from a man named Cushman!
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#262639 - 12/08/2005 20:04 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: peter]
wfaulk
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/12/2000
Posts: 16706
Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Quote:
which left me feeling a bit like Dirk Gently's sofa

Great. Now I've got this mental image of a Macintosh running a simulation of you bouncing around inside Hugo's car.
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#262640 - 12/08/2005 22:31 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: matthew_k]
gbeer
carpal tunnel

Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
Easier, till sombody parks close to you.
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#262641 - 13/08/2005 02:59 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: FireFox31]
canuckInOR
carpal tunnel

Registered: 13/02/2002
Posts: 3212
Loc: Portland, OR
It all kind of depends on the car. Some cars, like my own, I just swing my legs out, and stand up. But that's really a truck.

For smaller cars (I'm 6' 3"), if I'm lucky, I can do the same as above. However, I have also been seen going top-first -- lean out of the car, put my hands on the ground, and kind of crawl out.

Cheers,

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#262642 - 13/08/2005 06:38 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: pgrzelak]
bonzi
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Registered: 13/09/1999
Posts: 2401
Loc: Croatia
Quote:
Sadly, two door cars have longer doors, making them much more challenging in tight parking lots. If another car parks too close to you, you need to be a bit acrobatic to get in. As a very large person, two doors are nice, but it sometimes is not pretty...

That's why I am considering replacing my Renault Twingo by Peugeot 1007.
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#262643 - 13/08/2005 12:44 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: matthew_k]
boxer
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Registered: 16/04/2002
Posts: 2011
Loc: Yorkshire UK
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Hugo's Noble an utter nightmare

In the days of Lambo Muiras, I was asked to an Italian motoring day out at Brands Hatch, thinking, curiously, that I looked affluent, a salesman got me in, which I can't remember being a problem, but could I get out? in the end he had to get a colleague and the two of them dragged me out by the armpits.
I had a similar experience some years later with a Marcos, but outside a pub in front of all my friends - Sometime later I saw that a motoring journalist described it as: " two coffins either side of a Ford Zephyr engine".
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#262644 - 14/08/2005 23:27 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: matthew_k]
FireFox31
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Registered: 19/09/2002
Posts: 2494
Loc: East Coast, USA
Quote:
and presses the seccond driver button when he wants to get out and it slides to seat all the way back

That's a great idea. I knew a man with a mid-90's Acura Legend who's car seats automatically (I think) moved back when he turn the ignition off, making it easier to get out.

Yeah, I should just leave my stuff in the trunk, I guess. Maybe the problem is all the tight parking spots I get myself into. I wonder if the Delorean gull wing would be easier to get out of. Though, lying (not sitting) in one of those was similar to boxer's experience, no doubt.
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#262645 - 15/08/2005 00:04 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: FireFox31]
webroach
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Registered: 23/07/2003
Posts: 869
Loc: Colorado
Quote:
I knew a man with a mid-90's Acura Legend who's car seats automatically (I think) moved back when he turn the ignition off, making it easier to get out.


The Infiniti Q45 (at least the older ones) not ony automatically put the seat to the back-most position when the ignition is turned off, but also pulls the telescoping steering column as close as possible to the dash. VERY easy to get out of.
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#262646 - 15/08/2005 01:18 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: matthew_k]
Robotic
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Registered: 06/04/2005
Posts: 2026
Loc: Seattle transplant
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... two door cars have much bigger doors than four door cars,...

True, but isn't most of the extra length added at the back of the door? That allows easier access to the area behind the front seats, but I doubt it makes it any easier to get into or out of the front. The relation of your feet/knees to the A-pillar is still the same.
As someone else pointed out, though, the longer door isn't able to open to as wide an angle in tight parking situations. Wouldn't that actually would make it *more* difficult for large persons?

This is just my imagination working, here. I'm not speaking from experience. I'm not a large person and neither is my car large.
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#262647 - 15/08/2005 08:45 Re: Getting out of the car [Re: Robotic]
pgrzelak
carpal tunnel

Registered: 15/08/2000
Posts: 4859
Loc: New Jersey, USA
Quote:
I'm not speaking from experience. I'm not a large person and neither is my car large.


From experience on both fronts, yes. Two doors do make it harder to get out of in tight parking situations... But it just looks sooooo much nicer. When you reach a certain size, the realization kicks in that no matter what kind of cool sports cars are out there, you are basically limited to either a van, SUV, truck or big lux-o-box. The best you can hope for is a lux-o-box with a little style...

Edit: WOW. I really need to update my install page to get with the times...
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