#288890 - 26/10/2006 12:54
reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
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On September 13, I ordered a new Mac Mini. They promised delivery by October 20. A few days ago, they said, "due to an unexpected delay" that it wouldn't be showing up until November 20. Traditionally, these sorts of delays can sometimes be an indication of changeovers in Apple's product lines, but then Apple only recently announced the newer, slightly higher clock frequencies for Mac Minis (and the banishment of the Core Solo processor).
Any idea how I'm supposed to read the tea leaves on this? I'm going on sabbatical in January (to Stanford, and renting a place in Redwood City), so it's actually reasonably important for me to migrate to the new machine before I migrate half-way across the country.
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#288891 - 26/10/2006 13:19
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: DWallach]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
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I assume you didn't just go and buy one from an Apple shop for a good reason. I just went and bought 1.66GHz one on my lunch break today. As a matter of fact, I'm typing this reply on it.
I waited about 3 weeks for my iBook, but that was because I had Bluetooth added. Amazing that such a simple addition took it from immediate shipping to 3 week lead.
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Andy M
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#288892 - 26/10/2006 13:58
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: DWallach]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 13/07/2000
Posts: 4180
Loc: Cambridge, England
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Quote: Any idea how I'm supposed to read the tea leaves on this?
The apple.com order status page is very pretty but gives you no idea what's going on behind the scenes. Consider this your first MacOS experience
Peter
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#288893 - 26/10/2006 14:11
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: andym]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
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Quote: I assume you didn't just go and buy one from an Apple shop for a good reason.
This is work equipment. Since my employer is a non-profit, they can do the transaction tax-free when they buy from apple.com, plus there's an educational discount (on a Mini, it's all of $20, while on a MacPro tower, it's more like $200). When I walk into a store, I pay sales tax and don't get the discount. No big deal when we're talking about pens and pencils, but it's noticable on larger purchases like this. Also, I wanted the machine maxed out, which I'm guessing is a relatively uncommon Mini configuration.
I've bought other Apple gear before, but I've never had to wait months for it. When I ordered my 2nd-gen iPod Nano, I had it within a week of its official introduction.
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#288894 - 26/10/2006 15:07
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: DWallach]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
Loc: Berkeley, California
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Hmmm, that is odd. It would certainly be odd for apple to replace the mini now. The assumption is the core solo was dropped because it won't support iTV, which would imply there isn't going to be a new mini before iTV early next year. This Blog Post was hilarious, and also clarifies apple's position on quick hardware updates, as if it needed any clarification. Great news that your headed out to California, even if you're visiting a second tier university. We'll have to have a meet.
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#288896 - 26/10/2006 15:20
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: matthew_k]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
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Quote: It would certainly be odd for apple to replace the mini now.
I figured it was low, back in September, when they announced the speed bumps for the Mini but the Core 2 Duo for the iMac. Now, I'm less sure what's going on inside Apple.
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#288897 - 01/11/2006 12:58
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: DWallach]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
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Update: my Mac Mini just shipped yesterday, from Anaheim, California via FedEx Ground. That means I'll probably have it here just in time to be completely swamped by events surrounding the November 7 general election. (Have I ever mentioned, when you work on e-voting security, that your life gets complicated when elections are going on?)
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#288898 - 01/11/2006 13:39
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: DWallach]
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veteran
Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Quote: Have I ever mentioned, when you work on e-voting security, that your life gets complicated when elections are going on?
So I assume you know Harri Hursti
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#288899 - 01/11/2006 14:43
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: julf]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
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Hursti is very cool. He and I shared a few beers at a voting conference last year. He told some interesting stories about keeping an IRC channel open to Russia during the 1991 coup attempt and distributing news directly from the people there.
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#288900 - 01/11/2006 16:45
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: DWallach]
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veteran
Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Guess who created that connection to Russia Harri used to work for me when I was running EUNet Finland. Truly bright guy, but occasionally a management challenge
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#288902 - 02/11/2006 10:33
Re: reading the tea leaves on a Mac Mini order
[Re: andym]
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veteran
Registered: 01/10/2001
Posts: 1307
Loc: Amsterdam, The Netherlands
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Quote: Just out of interest, how and with what?
Not the kremvax
Here is an email from the period:
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From: Oleg Tabarovsky <olg@ussr.eu.net> Organization: Relcom Corp. (Research & Development) Subject: Notes on some TCP/IP WAN activities in xSU Date: Mon, 28 Sep 1992 20:21:56 +0300
"Notes on some TCP/IP WAN activities in xSU Activities in the field of TCP/IP networking include SU domain coordination, assignment of IP numbers to ex-Soviet organizations, development and operation of IP-network in SU. The coordination and assignment of IP numbers for the SU domain are carried out by RelTeam Ltd., a private company.
The former Soviet Union and Russian Network Information Center is run by RelTeam Ltd., which assigns IP numbers on behalf of RIPE NCC. RelTeam Ltd. is also the main developer of all networking software in EUnet/RELCOM network, and the coordinator of IP activities in EUnet/RELCOM.
Some notes on current state and future of TCP/IP networking in EUnet/RELCOM network operated by Relcom Corp follow. Currently EUnet/RELCOM network connects approximately 3000 sites all over xSU. EUnet/RELCOM includes approximately 70 regional nodes (backbones) in all former USSR republics and major cities. Currently most links between nodes and sites in RELCOM are UUCP links. The network international link now is UUCP connection to EUNet via host techno.fuug.fi in Finland.
Several problems, including growth of the network, significant delays because of UUCP links, and inability to provide net services going beyond e-mail forced us to begin a transition from UUCP to TCP/IP network. In doing this the main problems we are facing are lack of at least medium speed digital channels (64K), lack of appropriate routers (cisco's are still under COCOM restrictions for us) and lack of properly trained staff at every EUnet/RELCOM node.
Nevertheless, we try to solve all of these problems (probably with the exception of the last one). At the end of 1991 the kernel of xSU IP network began to grow. Currently a pilot IP network connects 11 LANs in Moscow, Moscow region and Barnaul (Altai). The links are mostly voice grade leased lines equipped with V32bis modems and dialup links (with permanent connection) via high quality phone service called ISKRA (former communist party phone network). ISKRA phone network connects almost all major xSU cities and its quality permits reliable V32bis modem connections. Currently Moscow backbone consists of 3 routers at EUnet/RELCOM main hub (KIAE premises), ISKRA POP and Moscow Long Distance Exchange. All other networks which form current IP network kernel are connected to these routers.
Plans call for the establishment of international IP link to the EUnet cisco in Amsterdam through the router at Moscow Long Distance Exchange in just a few weeks. Voice grade leased line which will form the link is going to be equipped with ZyXEL modems at both ends. That will allow to exchange data at speed up to 16800 bps uncompressed.
During the first stage of IP network development in xSU we plan to connect all major EUnet/RELCOM nodes via voice grade leased lines and ISKRA dialup links. In the near future (by the end of 1992) we hope to establish up to 20 IP links via leased lines and several other links via ISKRA, these links will form the global IP network connecting at least 50 LANs. Regional backbones will in their turn form intraregional IP networks in such areas as Siberia, Ural, Altai, St.Petersburg, Ukraine, the Far East and others."
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