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#303843 - 05/11/2007 00:14 iPod touch safari file size limit?
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
so i made this impulse buy since i have a new job starting tuesday...

When i use the builtin safari browser to look at my gallery pages at my web site, it works fine except for it does not play the quicktime movies or show the largest size photos. Does the web browser in these things have a file size limit?

Uncle google isn't helping me so far.
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#303844 - 05/11/2007 08:00 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tfabris]
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
Posts: 5549
Loc: Ajijic, Mexico
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since i have a new job starting tuesday...



Does this mean you are no longer working for the evil empire? Or is it just a new area within Microsoft?

Either way, congrats. I hope you're happy in the new endeavor.

tanstaafl.
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#303845 - 05/11/2007 12:17 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tanstaafl.]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
My one year contract with Microsoft was up. There is a thing where I am not allowed to work there for 100 days after that contract. So I have to find either another temp job at the same company, or find permanent work outside microsoft. This happens to be a six month temp job with the option to go permanent. So if it doesnt go permanent, at least I can go back to microsoft for another one year contract and repeat the cycle. I would prefer permanent with this new company because it's more convenient geographically.
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#303846 - 05/11/2007 12:27 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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When i use the builtin safari browser to look at my gallery pages at my web site, it works fine except for it does not play the quicktime movies or show the largest size photos. Does the web browser in these things have a file size limit?

Yup. It does. People have complained about this on the macrumors forum.

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#303847 - 05/11/2007 15:52 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hm. /me considers hacking his brand-new ipod...

I'm surprised I couldn't find this by googling. Do you have any links to specific discussions on the topic of the file size limit? With more hard data on it?
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#303848 - 05/11/2007 16:31 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
It only has a limited cache available and doesn't support RTSP streaming for movies. I'll have to see if I can find where the thread was. Its annoying to search macrumors.

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#303849 - 05/11/2007 16:38 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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Hm. /me considers hacking his brand-new ipod...


Web iPod touch jailbreak

1. Make sure you're using firmware 1.1.1

2. Set up WiFi

3. Go to dn.vc/jb

4. Wait

5. Run Installer and install Sources->Community Sources and System->BSD Subsystem

You'll probably want to enable SSH, go in and change the root password as well from the default of alpine.

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#303850 - 05/11/2007 17:29 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tfabris]
tman
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Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
From the iPhone Dev Center

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Any downloaded resource, whether it’s HTML, CSS, JavaScript, images, or non-streamed media, must be less than 10 MB. The 10-MB limit applies to the encoded size of images. There is also a limit to the decoded size of images. See “Optimize Images.”


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The maximum decoded image size for GIF, PNG, and TIFF images is 2 megapixels. That is, ensure that width * height ≤ 2 * 1024x1024. The decoded size of animated GIF images must be less than 2 MB. For large animated GIFs, only the first frame is shown.

The maximum decoded image sizes for JPG images is 32 megapixels (due to subsampling), which allows JPG images to decode to a size that has 16 times fewer pixels. JPG images larger than 2 megapixels are subsampled — that is, decoded to a reduced size. JPG subsampling allows users to view images from the latest digital cameras.

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#303851 - 05/11/2007 17:38 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
This makes perfect sense based on what I've seen the unit do. Thanks.

Also, there's another limit I found: h.264 encoded movies have an X/Y resolution limitation of something like 320x240. Bigger than that and it'll refuse to play them.
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#303852 - 05/11/2007 19:47 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tfabris]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
Posts: 7868
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Also, there's another limit I found: h.264 encoded movies have an X/Y resolution limitation of something like 320x240. Bigger than that and it'll refuse to play them.


My iPhone plays 640x480 H.264 files just fine from the iTunes store. Can't imagine the iPod Touch would be any different.

The key limitation is likely in bitrate.

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#303853 - 06/11/2007 06:01 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: tman]
Neutrino
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Registered: 23/01/2002
Posts: 506
Loc: The Great Pacific NorthWest
tman, I wanted to give you a big THANK YOU for posting the link to jailbreak. I loaded it into my Touch tonight and it has transformed the Touch from a locked music player into so much more. Again, THANK YOU!!
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#303854 - 06/11/2007 12:35 Re: iPod touch safari file size limit? [Re: drakino]
drakino
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Registered: 08/06/1999
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Also from the iPhone Dev Center

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Encode Video for Wi-Fi and EDGE

You can use the QuickTime Pro v7.2 Export command and the following exporters to prepare video content for iPhone:
"Movie to iPhone" prepares movies for Wi-Fi.
"Movie to iPhone (Cellular)" prepares movies for EDGE.

For QuickTime Pro v7.1.6 and earlier, use these exporters and settings:
The Movie to MPEG-4 exporter with the following settings prepares movies for Wi-Fi.
In the H.264 video options, make sure you restrict the encoder to use the Baseline profile, and select "Faster encode (Single-pass)" encoding in the Video Options dialog.
Video settings: 900 kbit/sec, H.264, 480 x 360; frame rate: current; preserve aspect ratio using: Fit within size
Audio settings: 128 kbit, AAC-LC
.mp4 file
The Movie to 3G exporter with the following settings prepares movies for EDGE.
Video settings: 64 kbit, H.264, 176 x 144; frame rate: 10 or 15; preserve aspect ratio using: Letterbox or Crop
Audio settings: 16 kbit, AAC-LC
.3gp file

In each of the QuickTime Pro v7.1.6 and earlier exporters, turn off streaming; iPhone does not stream media using RTP/RTSP.

Size Movies Appropriately

In landscape orientation, the iPhone screen is 480 x 320 pixels. Users can easily switch the view mode between scaled-to-fit (letterboxed) and full-screen (centered and cropped). You should use a size that preserves the aspect ratio of your content and fits within a 480 x 360 rectangle. 480 x 360 is a good choice for 4:3 aspect ratio content as it will keep the video sharp in full-screen view mode.

Don’t Let Bit Rate Stall Your Movie

When viewing media over the network, bit rate makes a crucial difference to the playback experience. If the network cannot keep up with the media bit rate, playback stalls.

Use Supported Movie Formats

The following movie formats are supported:
H.264 Baseline Profile Level 3.0 video, up to 640 x 480 at 30 fps. Note that B frames are not supported in the Baseline profile.
MPEG-4 Part 2 video (Simple Profile)
AAC-LC audio, up to 48 kHz
.mov, .mp4, .m4v, .3gp file formats
Any movies or audio files that can play on an iPod.

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