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#314216 - 19/09/2008 13:46 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Tim]
tfabris
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Originally Posted By: Tim
The only port I really miss on it is the Line In. No more empeg at work for me until I get around to getting the digital audio card installed frown


Or you buy the docking station.

(Well, at least *my* docking station came with a line-in port. And an extra power supply, too. So it was a nice thing that I had work get me the docking station.)
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#314217 - 19/09/2008 14:10 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: tfabris]
Tim
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Originally Posted By: tfabris
Originally Posted By: Tim
The only port I really miss on it is the Line In. No more empeg at work for me until I get around to getting the digital audio card installed frown


Or you buy the docking station.

(Well, at least *my* docking station came with a line-in port. And an extra power supply, too. So it was a nice thing that I had work get me the docking station.)

I have the docking station, well the D/Port Advanced Port Replicator. I'm guessing it is the same thing. The only connections on it are the AC Adapter, Modem, Ethernet, S-Video Out, DVI, VGA, Parallel Port, Serial, S/P DIF, 5 USB ports and headphones. I looked high and low for the Line In.

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#314218 - 19/09/2008 14:45 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Tim]
tfabris
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Aw, that's too bad they didn't include a line-in on the dock. I guess they figured S/PDIF was the New Hotness.
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#314219 - 19/09/2008 15:11 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: tfabris]
Robotic
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Originally Posted By: tfabris
Laptopreview.com is nothing like dpreview.com. frown

Looking at the wikipedia entry for Laptops, I came across http://www.notebookreview.com/
in the External Links section.

Does that help?
There are a couple other links that might be worth checking into as well.
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#314220 - 19/09/2008 15:13 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: sein]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Originally Posted By: sein
Originally Posted By: Dignan
Personally, I'm hoping to get a Dell Inspiron Mini 9. When the deal was going on, I should have asked if anyone here was interested in getting the Studio 15 laptop. $99 was an incredible offer for the Mini 9.

Ah, don't worry about the offer. It only applied to 'full price' Studio 15 laptops which were $250 more than what anyone normally pays anyway.

I ordered a Mini 9 for my sister a short while back and should be here in a week or so. Quite looking forward to playing with it, looks pretty neat.

I saw that Engadget post too, but that was a pretty weird deal. Actually, when the Mini 9 deal was first announced, it wasn't like that scam that it ended up being. You could add the $99 Mini to the $649 Studio 15. You just needed the right link, which actually still worked until two days after the deal officially ended smile Unfortunately I wasn't able to find anyone to go in on it with frown

I'll be very interested in your impressions of it. My current laptop has just died (I believe it's beyond repair), and I'm really interested in the Mini.
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#314223 - 19/09/2008 16:44 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Robotic]
tfabris
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Originally Posted By: Robotic


Ooo. I like that one.
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#314225 - 19/09/2008 17:22 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: tfabris]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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I'd found that one already. The search options are near worthless:

No resolution search.

A search for graphics chip manufacturer? Who gives a crap?

A search for manufacturer? If I knew that, I'd just go to their web site.

Processor type but no speed?

Weight and screen size are reasonable, other than the common problem of only being able to select one option at a time. (Looking for a screen under fifteen inches? That's six different searches.)

(Note that I'm not complaining that manufacturer and graphics chip searches are available, only that they should have been much lower priority than some other, more basic specs.)


Edited by wfaulk (19/09/2008 17:28)
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#314226 - 19/09/2008 18:13 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: wfaulk]
hybrid8
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Do they keep track of how many stickers come on each of the laptops?
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#314227 - 19/09/2008 18:49 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: hybrid8]
tman
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Yeah. They need search options for a laptop with built-in air ionizer or anti-bacterial keyboards.

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#314228 - 19/09/2008 18:50 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: tman]
tman
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The ability to search by graphics chipset manufacturer is important if you want a gaming laptop. If your brand new laptop comes with an Intel XtremeCrap graphics chipset then you're not going to be doing much gaming...

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#314229 - 19/09/2008 19:28 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: tman]
drakino
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It's also handy to know if your graphics chip is defective.

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#314235 - 19/09/2008 23:11 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: wfaulk
A search for manufacturer? If I knew that, I'd just go to their web site.

Well, simply selecting Lenovo yields 398 items, so I guess that's one reason. And Lenovo's own site is horrible.
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#314236 - 19/09/2008 23:14 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Dignan]
tman
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I guess it'd help as well for when you're getting a laptop from places like Dell that give you different options depending on what part of the site you use.

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#314237 - 19/09/2008 23:14 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Tim]
gbeer
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Originally Posted By: Tim
Originally Posted By: hybrid8
I like to have at least one system around with legacy ports, but I don't want a notebook with a serial port nor parallel port on it either.

Work gave me a laptop to replace my desktop during my last refresh cycle. The only port I really miss on it is the Line In. No more empeg at work for me until I get around to getting the digital audio card installed frown


Sound like what you need to do is reorder the wiring and have the laptop line out plugged into the empeg and tie the line outs of the empeg to your pc's external speaker system.
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#314239 - 19/09/2008 23:20 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: wfaulk
Let's assume your scenario, that I'm interested in 1400 pixel width and would like it smaller. In order to get the closest equivalent, I have to go with 1440x900, which is available, at its smallest, in a 15.4" screen. (Correct me if you can find a smaller screen with a similar resolution. Please. I want to know about it.)

Well, time to take it easier on that site, Bitt. After about 1 minute and 5 clicks with that search engine, I ended up with a strong possibility.

Have you taken a look at the Lenovo T400? It has a 1440x900 14.1" display (if you choose the WXGA+ when building).

Does that look like it could pass muster?
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#314247 - 20/09/2008 01:07 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Tim]
andym
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Throwing it back off topic...

I use my titanic-sized Inspiron laptop at work as a desktop replacement. Given that it spends 90% of it's time tethered to the wall. What's the best way to ensure the battery doesn't fade or get cooked?
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#314248 - 20/09/2008 01:43 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: andym]
tman
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Take it out of the laptop with 40% charge or so and just top it up every so often.

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#314249 - 20/09/2008 03:07 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Originally Posted By: Dignan
Have you taken a look at the Lenovo T400? It has a 1440x900 14.1" display

Resolution's too low....

And about the search: how far did you have to go to find a resolution? Dig down into the review? What about ones that don't have reviews? Go to the manufacturer's site? Given that there are over 600 laptops that have 14-15" screens, that's a lot of digging.

As an aside, the only current laptop I can find that meets the specs I set out above is the Panasonic Toughbook Y7. The drawbacks are that there isn't a docking station for it, and, oh, that it costs about three times as much as it should, ignoring the "tough" part of it.


Edited by wfaulk (20/09/2008 03:23)
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#314262 - 20/09/2008 12:13 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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Originally Posted By: wfaulk
Originally Posted By: Dignan
Have you taken a look at the Lenovo T400? It has a 1440x900 14.1" display

Resolution's too low....

????

I'm confused...you said to find you something with a similar resolution (1440x900 in your post) with smaller than 15.4" screen. Just saying, that's what I did smile

And I narrowed it down by picking a random manufacturer (Lenovo), a small screen size (14-14.9"), and then worked up from the lightest weight until I got some results. That left me with about six models and the first one I clicked on was a 14.1" with 1440x900 resolution.

Given that you probably don't want to consider every brand on the market (there are some crappy ones after all), you might try this method, going from brand to brand. It narrows it down somewhat...
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#314265 - 20/09/2008 14:34 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Fair enough. I did. But I actually need it to be at least as ... resolute(?) ... as the four year old laptops we're currently using. And as I pointed out in that same post, 1440x900 has a significantly lower DPI and a significantly lower number of pixels.
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#314272 - 21/09/2008 02:21 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: wfaulk]
gbeer
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1440 in a 14" display is something above 100dpi. I generally consider that pretty good resolution for an LCD.
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#314273 - 21/09/2008 02:23 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: wfaulk]
Dignan
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I think you're basically looking for a WSXGA+ screen in something less than 15". In that case I believe your earlier assessment might be correct: they don't make them. I don't think the market for them is great enough. Too many average consumers would see it in the big box store and think the text on the screen was too small.

It's also possible that they simply don't make WSXGA+ panels that small. You're really starting to cram a lot of pixels tightly together.

I think Newegg is a good place to see what's available. They appear to list a good number of laptops (232), and let you narrow your search by screen resolution. The resolution you want is only available on 15.4" notebooks.
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#314285 - 21/09/2008 20:09 Re: laptop database/chooser [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Yeah, NewEgg's search is excellent, but it (for obvious reasons) doesn't list any laptops other than ones available via retail channels. So that pretty much means no (at least higher-end) Dells, Lenovos, etc.

Honestly, what I'd really like is "SXGA+" in a screen less than 15". But, virtually no one makes non-widescreen laptops any more.
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