#321756 - 27/04/2009 10:23
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: andy]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 09/08/2000
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Loc: Edinburgh, Scotland
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If you are stuck on an non-unbundled exchange then getting 21CN and a new BT DSLAM is potentially exciting, as it gives the possibility of 8MB+ which those of us stuck on such exchanges haven't had access to before.
Hmmm - this is what BT told me so I'm paying for an 8Mb line. I have the whizzy BT plate gubbins and the best connection I have ever had was 1Mb and typically I get 380k. And no amount of conversation, troubleshooting or anything has either improved my line speed or reduced my costs. Unfortunately I have no alternative options where I live. Oh yeah - the point of this was to say that I'm jealous of you all 
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#321757 - 27/04/2009 10:39
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: frog51]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
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That is the problem with DSL, if you are stuck on a long line no amount to tweaking or profile changing will ever get you the max the product can deliver on a shorter line. When I used to visit customer's premises it really pissed me off that I couldn't get 8Mbps so I now have 2 DSL lines linked together using the Multi-WAN function of clarkconnect and I get just over 1Mb a second transfer speeds, or somewhere around 10Mbps I think. I must admit that was a much better solution when I didn't have to pay for the 2nd broadband line  Having said that, there are some real good deals out there on broadband at the moment. I am using o2 and Sky at the moment and am paying about £7 less per month for them both than I was paying for one line with Zen. I have to admit they are both very good, I even get a fixed IP with o2 (£5 extra per month). And now I have my IP ranges sorted out myself I find the Multi-WAN really works well. Cheers Cris.
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#321761 - 27/04/2009 15:52
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: Roger]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
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For reference, while I go digging for those online references: Output Power (dBm) up/down = 12.5 / 19.5
Attenuation (dB) up/down = 16.5 / 34.0
Noise Margin (dB) up/down = 7.0 / 7.0 7dB is a marginal noise margin. That number should be a lot larger given the low attenuation figures. Here's what our ISP's parent says about this stuff:
SN Margin (AKA Signal to Noise Margin or Signal to Noise Ratio) Relative strength of the DSL signal to Noise ratio: 6dB is the lowest dB manufactures specify for modem to be able to synch. In some instances interleaving can help raise the noise margin to an acceptable level. The higher the number the better for this measurement.
6dB or below is bad and will experience no synch or intermittent synch problems
7dB-10dB is fair but does not leave much room for variances in conditions
11dB-20dB is good with no synch problems
20dB-28dB is excellent
29dB or above is outstanding
Line Attenuation
Measure of how much the signal has degraded between the DSLAM and the modem: maximum signal loss recommendation is usually about 60dB. The lower the dB the better for this measurement.
20dB and below is outstanding
20dB-30dB is excellent
30dB-40dB is very good
40dB-50dB is good
50dB-60dB is poor and may experience connectivity issues
60dB or above is bad and will experience connectivity issues
Edited by mlord (27/04/2009 15:54)
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#321762 - 27/04/2009 16:01
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
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7dB is a marginal noise margin. That number should be a lot larger given the low attenuation figures. In other words, that line looks *really* noisy to me. So your next step might be to disconnect all inside wiring, and have the modem directly on the telephone wire entry point (whatever it's called over there), and measure again. That will tell you if the problem is inside (you fix it), or outside (telco fixes it).
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#321764 - 27/04/2009 16:40
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 24/12/2001
Posts: 5528
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You should be able to get the modem to tell you what the maximum attainable rate is for your line, what the current rate is and what mode it is operating in. You had to use a service mode password for the old Speedtouch I had. I'm not sure what you'd do for your newer one. I made a Python script to extract the data from my modem to put it into MRTG. I can see the noise margin going up during daylight hours and then down again when it starts to get dark.
Mode ADSL2
Down Up
Current Rate 644608Bps 120448Bps
Max Rate 662528Bps 120320Bps
Capacity 97% 100%
Noise Margin 8dB 6dB
Line Attenuation 48dB 28dB
Power 0dB 12dB
On ADSL1 I was at ~3Mbps but its gone up to ~5Mbps by switching to ADSL2.
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#321768 - 27/04/2009 17:42
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: tman]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/01/2002
Posts: 3996
Loc: Manchester UK
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I've been having a PM conversation with Cris about my ADSL connection. Since the Beeb had launched their HD content on iPlayer is was a little miffed that I couldn't watch it.
Originally my modem was connected in the study on the end of the extension. It's connection stats looked like this:
Uptime: 0 days, 4:01:05
DSL Type: G.992.1 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 640 / 1,792
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0.00 / 2.00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 12.0 / 17.5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 29.0 / 47.0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 13.0 / 11.5
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / GSPN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 459 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 1,220,440
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 22,860
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 0 / 19,335
Following Cris' advice I moved the modem downstairs, put it on a 3 meter extension and disconnected the circuit upstairs. Now the stats look like this:
Uptime: 1 day, 1:21:04
DSL Type: G.992.1 annex A
Bandwidth (Up/Down) [kbps/kbps]: 640 / 4.640
Data Transferred (Sent/Received) [kB/kB]: 0,00 / 0,00
Output Power (Up/Down) [dBm]: 11,5 / 19,5
Line Attenuation (Up/Down) [dB]: 27,0 / 46,0
SN Margin (Up/Down) [dB]: 14,0 / 11,5
Vendor ID (Local/Remote): TMMB / GSPN
Loss of Framing (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Signal (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Power (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
Loss of Link (Remote): 0
Error Seconds (Local/Remote): 0 / 0
FEC Errors (Up/Down): 95 / 21.192
CRC Errors (Up/Down): 95 / 33
HEC Errors (Up/Down): 45 / 28
As you can see from the figures, not much is changing, other than a 'huge' jump in line speed (IMHO). You should definitely check your extension wiring Roger.
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#321769 - 27/04/2009 18:12
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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My line is rarely above 6dB SNR:  (the flat line it because it took me a while to remember I needed to knock up a new expect/sed/grep script for my new router) Despite that I manage a 8mb sync most of the time and don't get any noticeable line drops.
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#321774 - 27/04/2009 19:24
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
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In other words, that line looks *really* noisy to me. So your next step might be to disconnect all inside wiring, and have the modem directly on the telephone wire entry point (whatever it's called over there), and measure again.
Here in the UK, on BT Wholesale DSLAM's on the upto 8Mbps product a low SnR figure is actually a good thing, I must admit I don't fully understand the reasons for this but the theory is that if a line is good quality, ie stable then the noise margin can be set low to allow more room on the frequencies for data and less room for errors. It's the exact opposite to what you'd think but it does seem to work pretty well. On the old upto 2Mbps BT product it was the other way around, and was much easier to fault if you did have a line fault to chase. Them were the days As AndyM's results show it's well worth looking at your wiring if you have stability problems. The wiring beyond the master socket causes an imbalance in the circuit which can cause all sorts of issues. So cutting it out or isolating it with one of the filters I linked to can only be a good thing. Now, if I hook my Speedtouch up direct to the cable coming out of the ground at the front of my house with a couple of croc clips etc... I can get 7Mbps sync, but I don't think that set up would last too long around here Cheers Cris.
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#321776 - 27/04/2009 19:28
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: andym]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
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As you can see from the figures, not much is changing, other than a 'huge' jump in line speed (IMHO).
I would leave that set up alone now Andy, I bet in a few days you will see the SnR figure changing and your downstream increase a little more. Also interesting to see your SP is using the premium broadband offering with the slightly higher upstream, usually only business lines get that, and then at a premium. Cheers Cris.
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#321785 - 27/04/2009 20:35
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: Cris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
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Here in the UK, on BT Wholesale DSLAM's on the upto 8Mbps product a low SnR figure is actually a good thing Absolutely, to a point that is. It's a sign of a properly optimized connection, so long as the SNR target isn't so low that the line suffers from frequent loss of sync. But with the 7dB SNR above, the indication is that the line is already close to maxed out for speed. Which is rather curious, given the not-very-high attenuation figures. So there must be some extraneous noise on the line somewhere causing this. Or so I think. Cheers
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#321787 - 27/04/2009 20:45
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
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But with the 7dB SNR above, the indication is that the line is already close to maxed out for speed. Which is rather curious, given the not-very-high attenuation figures. So there must be some extraneous noise on the line somewhere causing this. You need to get your modem to report what channels are actually available. It may be that there aren't many channels which are usable but the ones that are okay do have a good SNR. Somebody I know has a lower attenuation and a higher noise margin than me but overall they get a lower speed because of this. Mine: 0.00 0.00 8.15 8.67 8.81 8.17 8.05 7.91 % 32~ 39
7.66 7.41 7.31 7.31 7.66 6.92 7.79 7.91 % 40~ 47
7.91 7.80 7.56 8.17 8.17 7.31 7.80 8.41 % 48~ 55
7.80 7.91 7.31 7.56 7.91 7.91 8.17 8.67 % 56~ 63
8.17 8.41 7.91 7.91 8.17 8.17 7.91 8.31 % 64~ 71
7.66 7.91 7.66 7.91 7.80 8.67 7.91 8.31 % 72~ 79
8.31 8.31 7.56 0.00 8.31 8.05 7.80 7.80 % 80~ 87
7.80 7.80 8.05 8.05 8.05 8.41 7.91 7.66 % 88~ 95
7.91 7.80 8.17 7.66 7.91 7.91 7.91 8.41 % 96~103
7.31 8.17 8.17 8.17 7.80 8.31 8.05 7.66 % 104~111
7.66 8.31 7.91 7.55 8.05 7.79 8.05 7.66 % 112~119
7.91 7.55 7.91 7.91 8.05 7.55 7.41 7.31 % 120~127
7.05 7.65 7.55 7.55 7.91 0.00 8.05 7.79 % 128~135
8.05 8.05 9.30 8.41 9.80 8.31 7.41 7.91 % 136~143
8.91 7.91 0.00 0.00 7.79 8.31 9.16 8.67 % 144~151
0.00 8.31 9.16 7.79 6.91 6.65 7.91 8.05 % 152~159
8.40 0.00 7.55 8.31 8.54 0.00 8.17 0.00 % 160~167
0.00 6.65 8.31 8.91 7.55 0.00 6.40 0.00 % 168~175
7.31 0.00 6.03 7.05 7.31 6.40 6.14 8.31 % 176~183
0.00 8.17 5.15 9.92 0.00 10.07 9.66 8.54 % 184~191
0.00 8.41 0.00 7.91 7.66 8.05 8.17 0.00 % 192~199
0.00 0.00 0.00 5.39 0.00 0.00 4.54 0.00 % 200~207
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 208~215
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 216~223
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 224~231
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 7.88 % 232~239
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 240~247
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 248~255 Theirs: 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.26 12.42 12.03 12.69 11.92 % 32~ 39
12.04 12.04 12.17 12.17 12.28 12.04 11.78 12.04 % 40~ 47
12.04 12.04 11.16 12.28 11.92 12.04 12.04 11.92 % 48~ 55
12.04 11.16 11.78 11.78 12.04 12.04 11.67 11.43 % 56~ 63
8.42 11.43 11.78 12.04 11.67 12.04 12.04 0.00 % 64~ 71
12.04 11.78 12.17 11.78 12.04 12.04 11.29 11.78 % 72~ 79
12.04 12.04 11.92 12.17 12.28 11.53 12.69 11.92 % 80~ 87
11.53 12.42 12.17 11.92 11.67 12.17 11.67 11.92 % 88~ 95
11.92 11.92 11.67 11.67 11.92 12.42 11.29 12.42 % 96~103
12.04 11.67 11.92 10.93 12.04 11.78 11.78 12.04 % 104~111
12.04 12.04 11.16 11.43 11.53 11.67 12.28 12.04 % 112~119
10.93 12.04 12.04 11.78 11.67 11.67 12.04 11.78 % 120~127
12.42 0.00 12.03 12.17 12.04 0.00 12.04 11.29 % 128~135
11.78 11.78 11.78 11.78 12.55 12.28 11.29 11.78 % 136~143
0.00 12.42 0.00 0.00 0.00 12.69 0.00 12.17 % 144~151
0.00 11.53 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 11.29 11.43 % 152~159
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 160~167
12.28 0.00 12.03 0.00 12.17 0.00 11.53 0.00 % 168~175
11.78 0.00 0.00 12.03 12.28 10.93 12.03 0.00 % 176~183
0.00 12.28 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 10.93 % 184~191
0.00 11.16 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 192~199
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 200~207
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 208~215
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 216~223
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 224~231
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 232~239
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 240~247
0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 % 248~255 The 32-143 range and 208-255 range is roughly the same for the both of us. Where it differs significantly is the 144-207 range above. I've got a lower signal quality but more channels are available.
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#321794 - 28/04/2009 03:37
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: mlord]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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So there must be some extraneous noise on the line somewhere causing this. Well, when I get a chance, I'll try to rule out internal noise by disconnecting everything else inside the house.
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#321807 - 28/04/2009 20:12
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: andy]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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My line is rarely above 6dB SNR: I note with interest however that my Thomson (data after the flat line) isn't showing the regular night time drops to 3dB that my Netgear did. I'm wondering of this is due to it measuring things differently or whether it is doing something to improve the SNR ?
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#321816 - 29/04/2009 06:14
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
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Like Mark says they just seem better. What is extra special about them is that they have this effect whatever the DSLAM manufacturer is, for a long time we observed that a manufacturers own chipset out performed any other when paired with a matching DSLAM chipset, but the SpeedTouch's seem to work with everything pretty good. The SnR figure is generated during the negotiations between the modem and router, you see wildly different figures of both line loss and SnR just by swapping modems, so it seems to be heavily dependant on the combination used. What I can tell you for fact is that the speedtouch figures almost always matched the line loss figures generated by my independent tester which could measure loss over a range of frequencies independent of the DSLAM. This is one reason why I have such faith in these modems. I still think the 546 is the best of the bunch The really strange thing is that lots of Cisco routers also have the same chipset (old Alcatel?) as the Speedtouch, but they perform terribly on even marginal lines. So I think there is a lot done in the firmware version they are running. Cheers Cris.
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#321817 - 29/04/2009 06:43
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: Cris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 10/06/1999
Posts: 5916
Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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The really strange thing is that lots of Cisco routers also have the same chipset (old Alcatel?) as the Speedtouch, but they perform terribly on even marginal lines. So I think there is a lot done in the firmware version they are running.
Most of the current Speedtouch devices appear to use Broadcom chipsets. I note that my DSLAM is an Alcatel one.
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#321820 - 29/04/2009 10:10
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: Cris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
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I still think the 546 is the best of the bunch While I'm still rather fond of our 546 from years ago, it is now resting in its orginal shipping box, waiting for me to put it up for resale. The brand new 516v6 we installed a month ago just blows it away, with a very consistent +5dB SNR over the old unit. Unbelievable. Cheers
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#321822 - 29/04/2009 12:30
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: mlord]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 06/02/2002
Posts: 1904
Loc: Leeds, UK
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The brand new 516v6 we installed a month ago just blows it away, with a very consistent +5dB SNR over the old unit. Unbelievable.
Hmm good tip, I'll pick one of those up Cheers Cris.
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#321830 - 29/04/2009 16:41
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: Cris]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
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Note that I've got firmware 7.4.3.2 installed on the 516v6. Before the firmware update, it behaved much the same as the old 546.
The 516v6 units can be picked up here for as little as CDN$50 or so. Dunno about over there, but prices here vary widely from shop to shop.
Cheers
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#326797 - 19/10/2009 01:00
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: DWallach]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
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Dragging up an old thread again... Remember my Netgear DGN2000? The box I loved because it consolidated a decent 802.11b/g/n base station, four port router, firewall, and DSL modem in a single box? The first one lasted roughly six months, then the hard ports died. They RMA'ed it and sent me a brand new one. Now, again roughly six months later, the same damn problem has happened again. Two of the hard ports are dead, but the wireless is still working. My experience with Netgear tech support wasn't nearly as good as it was six months ago. Since I'm now out of my original one year warranty, they're vaguely unwilling to help me. (I suggested that they replace my DGN2000 with the newer DGND3300 in the hopes that it doesn't share the thermal engineering defects of the DGN2000.) The tech said I had to speak with "customer support" so I called that next and got voicemail for the RMA department ("the voicemail box is full"). I'll try again tomorrow, but I'm dubious about whether Netgear is going to own up to their shoddy design and offer an out-of-warranty replacement. As such, it's time to hit up the gallery for advice. I'd very much like to continue with an all-in-one-box solution. I could spend another $140 on the Netgear DGND3300 (basically adding simultaneous dual-band), which also apparently runs Linux and is quite tweakable on the inside (Bruce Perens has a nice review on Amazon). Still, I've got more than a bit of hesitation to buy yet another Netgear product. Any suggestions on alternatives, perhaps not from the big-name vendors? I'd happily spend more on a box that was better engineered.
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#326802 - 19/10/2009 06:11
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: DWallach]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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Dragging up an old thread again... Heh. I was about to drag this thread up again, myself. I've given up on my Thomson -- my PS3 could never connect to the PlayStation Network. It could connect to the Internet just fine, just not to PSN. The Thomson kept dropping the WAN connection as well. So, I've gone back to the Zyxel P-660HW-T1 that was giving me setup grief previously. Turns out that my problems with setting up port forwarding were because the port forward (bizarrely) doesn't automatically open a hole in the firewall. The PS3/PSN connection seems rock-solid now, though. Where I'm having problems is that I can't get the WiFi working properly -- it doesn't want to play nice when it's not also doing DHCP server service, so I'm considering using a separate access point, although I'm going to poke around with the configuration a bit more. But, back to Dan's point: I was looking around for a potential replacement and saw negative stories about Netgear's customer support, and Linksys reliability, etc. I figure that it's a self-selection thing: happy people don't bother writing reviews, but I wasn't willing to drop £80 on a new router and then discover that it didn't work (for my defined value of "work"). In short: sorry, I have no idea. If I had a couple of grand, I'd get something from Cisco. I'd even consider separate DSL modem, router and access point.
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#326803 - 19/10/2009 06:21
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: Roger]
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carpal tunnel
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Loc: Wivenhoe, Essex, UK
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I feel your pain, as I've moaned about elsewhere on here I've had an awful experience with sub £200 routers recently. I'm still not very happy with the Draytek I ended up with.
I'd go with a separate WAP/modem/router (with the router being something Linux/BSD based), but even that is problematic. I tried a few affordable WAPs out and they all failed to cope in some way with dealing with my set of wifi clients:
2 x iPhone 3G
1 x Mac mini
2 x PC laptop
1 x Squeezebox Receiver
2 x Squeezebox Boom
1 x Squeezebox Controller
Some of them just failed to deal with that mixture of clients completely (randomly dropping them off the network), some failed to pass DHCP messages, some would lock up randomly. The Draytek is at least coping with the wifi side of things, now that I've handed the DHCP duties to the Linux server (the Draytek couldn't cope with being a DHCP server for some reason).
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#326809 - 19/10/2009 11:53
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: andy]
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carpal tunnel
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I've been totally happy with my Buffalo WHR-HP-G54 running Tomato. The only problem with it is that it doesn't support 802.11n, and nor do any Tomato-supported routers. I'm thinking about picking up a separate 802.11n access point.
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#326816 - 19/10/2009 15:14
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: wfaulk]
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pooh-bah
Registered: 12/02/2002
Posts: 2298
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I'm thinking about picking up a separate 802.11n access point. That's what I did, it works well except the cheap TrendNet crashes after a few GB of time machine backups, even though it's not routing anything. It's probably overheating and needs to be moved somewhere with better circulation, but it doesn't seem like that should be the issue.
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#326827 - 19/10/2009 22:38
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: matthew_k]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 12/11/2001
Posts: 7738
Loc: Toronto, CANADA
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My dual-band Time Capsule (Airport Extreme) is handling my wireless clients without an issue.
1 MacBook Pro n 5GHz
1 PowerBook g
1 Mac mini g
1 iPod Touch g
1 Wii g
2 Squeezebox 3 (Classic) g
Before my wife took over using my PowerBook, it was also supporting her Windows POS Acer Notebook (802.11g).
I'm currently using my WRT54G with Tomato as a router in front of the Time Capsule and behind a cable modem. I'd be using the Time Capsule to route instead if it weren't for Tomato's excellent bandwidth monitor and to a lesser extent, its QoS (though I didn't have a problem with TC in this regard).
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#326832 - 20/10/2009 00:34
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: hybrid8]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 17/12/2000
Posts: 2665
Loc: Manteca, California
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I've been using the DIR-655 for about 3 weeks now. It was a bit wonky until I turned off QOS, WISH, Advanced DNS, and SecureSpot. That was 10 days ago and it's been solid since. Maybe some of those things have value but I wasn't able to see it. Currently wired; colorHP, bw laser, Wind Nettop Ubuntu,S3 tivo, Directv HR23 DVR, 1 PC, Wireless; 2 pc laptops, 1 MBP, iPod Touch, iPhone, and occasionally the odd Empeg.
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#326843 - 20/10/2009 09:01
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: hybrid8]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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I'm currently using my WRT54G with Tomato as a router in front of the Time Capsule and behind a cable modem. I've just ordered a WRT54GL, onto which I'll install Tomato. I'll then put my old, non-sucky Zyxel DSL modem into bridge mode and run everything that way. At the moment, my home internet is down, and I've got a bruised foot from where I kicked the crap out of the Zyxel 660, so I'm hoping it turns up next-day.
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#326952 - 22/10/2009 02:37
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: Roger]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 30/04/2000
Posts: 3810
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It appears that the polite but sternly worded email I sent to customer.service@netgear.com actually did the trick. They're now sending me a DGND3300, gratis, and I'll be sending back the old DGN2000.
If it burns out in another six months, I'll deal with it then. Hopefully by then other vendors will have all-in-one boxes that compete with Netgear's offering.
Oh, and my grumbling on Twitter now has me followed by the "Netgear" user. I'm not sure whether I like this or not.
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#326958 - 22/10/2009 10:57
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: DWallach]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 29/08/2000
Posts: 14491
Loc: Canada
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I always, *always*, mount these gadgets on the wall, vertically. For better airflow. Usually sideways, on the wall.
Perhaps that's why they never die here at the rates they seem to for other people?
Cheers
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#326959 - 22/10/2009 11:16
Re: Thompsom firmware ?
[Re: Roger]
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carpal tunnel
Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
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I'll then put my old, non-sucky Zyxel DSL modem into bridge mode and run everything that way. Turns out that it doesn't actually do bridged mode. It might not even do half-bridge mode. Either way, the WRT54GL is working fine as a WAP54GL with the stock firmware, so I'll leave it like that for the time-being. Draytek do an ADSL Ethernet Modem (a PPPoA/PPPoE bridge). I might grab one next month.
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