Unoffical empeg BBS

Quick Links: Empeg FAQ | RioCar.Org | Hijack | BigDisk Builder | jEmplode | emphatic
Repairs: Repairs

Topic Options
#33570 - 29/06/2001 09:22 DSP
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
Maybe it's not a new idea, but... what about having a Digital Sound Processor in the next sw release? Meaning a menu that allows you to chose among a number of environmenal settings: stadium, auditorium, church, concert hall, etc?


Taym
______________________________
empeg mk II blue 12Gb
090000923
_________________________
= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

Top
#33571 - 29/06/2001 11:12 Re: DSP [Re: Taym]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
YUCK!

We painstakingly tune our systems to reproduce the original music as faithfully as possible, but you want to add an artificial echo to the sound?

I never understood the purpose of these echo effects on car stereos. Does anyone really ever use these?

I mean, I understand the need for echo effects on musical instruments and studio gear. I make use of these extensively. But on playback equipment? It just doesn't make sense.

___________
Tony Fabris
_________________________
Tony Fabris

Top
#33572 - 29/06/2001 11:21 Re: DSP [Re: tfabris]
thinfourth2
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
Not an echo effect me thinks but downloadable presets for the EQ that can be uploaded and retrived by emplode now that would be fine.

_________________________
P.Allison fixer of big engines Mk2+Mk2a signed by God / Hacked by the Lord Aberdeen Scotland

Top
#33573 - 29/06/2001 11:30 Re: DSP [Re: thinfourth2]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
EQ editing/backup through Emplode would be nice, I agree. But that's not what the original message was about.

___________
Tony Fabris
_________________________
Tony Fabris

Top
#33574 - 29/06/2001 11:33 Re: DSP [Re: tfabris]
thinfourth2
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
okay i was thinking of those crappy stereos that just change the equaliser settings and call it different things like hall etc.

_________________________
P.Allison fixer of big engines Mk2+Mk2a signed by God / Hacked by the Lord Aberdeen Scotland

Top
#33575 - 29/06/2001 11:35 Re: DSP [Re: thinfourth2]
EngelenH
enthusiast

Registered: 29/09/2000
Posts: 313
Loc: Belgium/Holland
I agree with Tony on the echo bit, but maybe the idea is not without merrit altogether. Like take those LotR MP3's I have who are not really very good qualitywise. Maybe some sort of plugins or filters to clean up certain things in recordings. The question is wouldn't this be something you would better do BEFORE you upload them to the Empeg. Maybe yes, maybe no. Maybe yes because often the change you would want to achieve would be one you would want to be permanent once you are happy with the result. Maybe no if you want variable results or if you simple have no software or skills to do such things manually offline (so to speak).

Cheers,
Hans


Mk2 - Blue & Red - 080000431
_________________________
Mk2 This message will selfdestruct in 5 seconds to prevent reproduction.

Top
#33576 - 29/06/2001 11:48 Re: DSP [Re: thinfourth2]
tfabris
carpal tunnel

Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31600
Loc: Seattle, WA
I see what you're saying.

The original poster was describing reverb/echo presets in the DSP: Hall, Stadium, Concert, etc.

You're talking about EQ presets: Jazz, Classical, Flat, etc.

I find both things distasteful. The first thing assumes that the original producers didn't use enough reverb in their recordings and you need to add more. The second thing simply ignores the whole purpose of an equalizer and assumes that there's a such thing as a "one size fits all" equalizer preset.

I could see having the equalizer come pre-loaded with presets, as long as they were editable, and they weren't labeled by genre. For example, I would just retch if they said "Jazz", "Classical", etc., but I would have no problem if they were labeled "Bass boost", "Mid Cut", "Less Bright", "Enhance Vocals", etc.

___________
Tony Fabris
_________________________
Tony Fabris

Top
#33577 - 29/06/2001 12:09 Re: DSP [Re: tfabris]
thinfourth2
Pooh-Bah

Registered: 13/04/2001
Posts: 1742
Loc: The land of the pale blue peop...
I too find the things tacky i have an amp in the house that hasn't been off direct since i bought the thing three years ago but back to what i was saying.

If the presets were downloadable you could have a set called jazz etc and also a set called mid boost etc the choice would be yours you could even have one called the mickey mouse annoying preset

_________________________
P.Allison fixer of big engines Mk2+Mk2a signed by God / Hacked by the Lord Aberdeen Scotland

Top
#33578 - 30/06/2001 04:40 Re: DSP [Re: tfabris]
Taym
carpal tunnel

Registered: 18/06/2001
Posts: 2504
Loc: Roma, Italy
I agree that adding echo and reverb does NOT make the music better in any way, but for some reason I may like to add it for whatever other personal reason, for instance because I am listening to someone speaking rather than U2 playing and want to add some sort of atmosphere, and so on. That really depends of what use you're making of your extremely vertalile empeg. So, assuming that it may not be a too difficult function to implement, I posted my msg. Just an idea. Take it easy

Taym
______________________________
empeg mk II blue 12Gb
090000923
_________________________
= Taym =
MK2a #040103216 * 100Gb *All/Colors* Radio * 3.0a11 * Hijack = taympeg

Top
#33579 - 30/06/2001 05:51 Re: DSP [Re: tfabris]
schofiel
carpal tunnel

Registered: 25/06/1999
Posts: 2993
Loc: Wareham, Dorset, UK
...and here's me thinking I'm the grumpy bugger.

You may or may not know that the DSP chip (Philips 7705) actually has a set of "Preset Presets" for Jazz, Nromal, Flat, Voice and a few others I can't bring to mind. They are directly programmable, and just set up various EQ settings. Access to this feature was not built into the player GUI because it was considered a bit weedy, and the primary sound control interface is the EQualiser.

However, what he was asking about is already there, you just need a path to it.

One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015
_________________________
One of the few remaining Mk1 owners... #00015

Top