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#351933 - 01/05/2012 17:37 Windows Recycle Bin
tanstaafl.
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Registered: 08/07/1999
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I think I'm beginning to understand the Recycle Bin a little bit.

My Windows Explorer shows that while I have one Recycle Bin directory on each hard drive, I have a total of eight Recycle Bins across my five hard drives: 3 on the C: drive, 2 on the D: drive, and one each on E:, F:, and L:. Windows Explorer says each of those five Recycle Bin directories is empty.

Each of the eight Recycle Bins has the same set of 388 files in it, according to Windows Explorer whatever it is that displays the files when you click on the Recycle Bin icon, and those files are a mish-mash of files deleted across all the drives since the last time I emptied the Recycle Bin. Yet, I have a directory print utility called Agent Ransack that lists all the files in any directory or drive. It shows for each Recycle Bin directory the following:

Gaahh. Rather than try and make some semblance of a table, just look at the first attached picture, below.

Clearly this information bears little relationship to what is displayed by clicking the Recycle Bin icon.

Now, it is apparent that the Recycle Bin is not a directory full of deleted files. Rather, it is a pointer to a table hidden away somewhere that has in it the file names and original locations of the "deleted" files, which aren't really deleted at all. They are just flagged as deleted, the space the files took is not de-allocated until their records are deleted from the Recycle Bin table.

So... files in the Recycle Bin take up as much space on the drive as they did before they were deleted. When you display the contents of the Recycle Bin, you are displaying the contents of the entire Recycle Bin table, regardless of which drive the original deleted files came from. This goes a long way towards explaining the 5GB difference between my F: drive and my L: drive which was supposed to be an exact duplicate.

Now, the question: If I go to drive F:, and empty just that recycle bin, will it empty the recycle bins across all of the drives, or only the files that were deleted from drive F:?

Another question: Why does my C: drive show three separate Recycle Bins?

I guess I could just empty the F: Recycle Bin and see what happens... but first I want to skim through all my "recycled" files and make doubly sure there isn't anything I might want to keep.

tanstaafl.


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#351940 - 01/05/2012 19:47 Re: Windows Recycle Bin [Re: tanstaafl.]
wfaulk
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Registered: 25/12/2000
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Inside each X:\$RECYCLE.BIN folder is a set of additional folders, one per user, that are the per-user Recycle Bins. Explorer hides their real names from you, but you can see them from the Command Prompt if you so desire. (They are just the SIDs of the users.) That's why you're seeing multiple Recycle Bins per drive. You can just delete these directly with no ill effects, and you can do that per-drive.
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#351943 - 02/05/2012 02:00 Re: Windows Recycle Bin [Re: wfaulk]
gbeer
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Some users can make per user bins a real problem.

One of the sysadmins at work was in the habit of deleting installers w/o emptying the bin.

When I finally tracked down where all my disk space went, I found the equilivant of dozens of cd size installer images.
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#351952 - 02/05/2012 17:40 Re: Windows Recycle Bin [Re: wfaulk]
tanstaafl.
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Originally Posted By: wfaulk
You can just delete these directly with no ill effects, and you can do that per-drive.
Thank you, Bitt. That was exactly the information I was looking for.

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#351954 - 02/05/2012 18:47 Re: Windows Recycle Bin [Re: gbeer]
Dignan
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Registered: 08/03/2000
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Originally Posted By: gbeer
Some users can make per user bins a real problem.

One of the sysadmins at work was in the habit of deleting installers w/o emptying the bin.

When I finally tracked down where all my disk space went, I found the equilivant of dozens of cd size installer images.

Is it possible to create a policy that sets the maximum bin size?
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#351955 - 02/05/2012 21:08 Re: Windows Recycle Bin [Re: Dignan]
wfaulk
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Loc: Raleigh, NC US
Yes.
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#352092 - 11/05/2012 11:48 Re: Windows Recycle Bin [Re: wfaulk]
Taym
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I've had cases (Windows 7) where several "$....TMP" files were in the directory pertaining logged on user (myself, Admin) actually taking up disk space, and yet not showing in the Recycle Bin itself, which was reported as "empty". I never investigated the source of the problem, and just deleted those files without any consequence.
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