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#35446 - 09/08/2001 09:49 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: tms13]
altman
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Registered: 19/05/1999
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Rewind on the kenwood does backspace; not sure which key it is on a rio remote, though I suspect it's cancel?

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#35447 - 09/08/2001 09:50 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: altman]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
Yes, I'm pretty sure that it's Cancel on the Rio Remote as well.

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#35448 - 09/08/2001 09:54 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: tms13]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
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how are we supposed to type the hex digits a-f when entering PINs?

Um, I'd say that you should choose to only name your PINs with decimal digits.

Since: a) you are the one making the PINs (you have to enter them yourself into emplode), and b) you can only enter PINs with the remote control, then it's a self-correcting system. Assign PINs that work.

The only odd thing is that Emplode shouldn't allow you to enter alphabetic PINs. Does it?

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#35449 - 09/08/2001 11:02 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: tfabris]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
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Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
Doh! I thought PINs were FIDs! TLA overload!

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#35450 - 09/08/2001 11:08 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: altman]
tms13
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> Rewind on the kenwood does backspace; not sure which key it is on a rio remote, though I suspect it's cancel?


You're half right: rewind deletes in the numeric entry fields (year and PIN), but not in the textual ones (the ones I'm most likely to mis-type!). For those,n rewind and ffd move through the displayed search results.

Cancel returns straight to your current visual (or info) in all cases AFAICT.

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#35451 - 10/08/2001 03:55 Re: Visuals on 2.0 [Re: tms13]
tms13
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I wrote:

> Somebody *please* tell me that the Toilet Floor renaming is just a joke. I'll lose what little respect I get if my empeg goes all PC...

Hmm, PC.  Public Convenience Floor?

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#35452 - 10/08/2001 04:23 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: tms13]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
Posts: 5683
Loc: London, UK
In the text search modes, the kenwood uses the AM- button for backspace.


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#35453 - 10/08/2001 04:38 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: Roger]
tms13
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Registered: 30/07/2001
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Loc: Lochcarron and Edinburgh
The Rio remote doesn't have an AM button; the Source and Tuner buttons don't have any effect in text search.

[I've just discovered that Select-Mode and Info both toggle between "search by" and "append by" - perhaps that should be mentioned in the manual?]

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#35454 - 10/08/2001 06:35 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: tms13]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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The fact that info alters the search mode is probably a bug. Or did you mean that the manual makes no mention of either button?



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#35455 - 10/08/2001 06:38 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: Roger]
tms13
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Roger wrote:

> did you mean that the manual makes no mention of either button?

Yes.

I wasn't sure whether Info was supposed to have the same effect or not.

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#35456 - 10/08/2001 09:26 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: tms13]
tfabris
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Registered: 20/12/1999
Posts: 31604
Loc: Seattle, WA
Hmm. I could have sworn that Cancel on the Rio remote worked like backspace when doing alphanumeric searches. But I just tried it on 1.03, and it doesn't.

Rewind on the Rio Remote does work like backspace in the alphanumeric searches, but you have to hold down the button.

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#35457 - 13/08/2001 07:42 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: tfabris]
tms13
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Tony wrote:

> Rewind on the Rio Remote does work like backspace in the alphanumeric searches, but you have to hold down the button.


Ah, I hadn't tried that (holding it down).

Now I've tried it, I can say I don't like it. If I want to backspace one character, it's hard to time it right - the autorepeat kicks in very soon, and I end up with the whole string being erased.

There has to be a better way - I suggest that Cancel should backspace until the string is empty.

BTW, my (Rio branded) remote seems a bit dodgy. It will work for a while, then stop working for 5 or 10 minutes. Is there an easy way to tell whether the remote or the player (Rio brand, 1.03 developer image) is at fault?

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#35458 - 13/08/2001 07:49 Re: Search controls (was: Visuals on 2.0) [Re: tms13]
Roger
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Registered: 18/01/2000
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Loc: London, UK
I suggest that Cancel should backspace until the string is empty.

In v2.0, it does. I wonder why this didn't make it into v1.03?




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